Re: Mail with no purpose?

2004-04-03 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 1-apr-04, at 18:49, Michel Py wrote: In other words: if you're already to the point where you are using a text-mode mail client or disabling HTML and/or other stuff in a GUI client, you are no loss to the spammer if your email does not confirm as valid (because you would not even read it nor b

RE: Mail with no purpose?

2004-04-02 Thread Michel Py
>> Michel Py wrote: >> In other words: if you're already to the point where >> you are using a text-mode mail client or disabling >> HTML and/or other stuff in a GUI client, you are no >> loss to the spammer if your email does not confirm >> as valid (because you would not even read it nor buy >>

Re: Mail with no purpose?

2004-04-01 Thread Richard Cox
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:15:10 UTC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't quite understand how that would work. ... > unless instead of using something like > "http://spammersserver.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > they rewrite it into "http://emailidstring.spammerserver.com"; > and use some custom dns server

RE: Mail with no purpose?

2004-04-01 Thread Michel Py
> William Leibzon wrote: > But I really dont see how this would be any different then just > logging with cgi, it'll result in positive logging for exactly > same set of people. > For example as I'm using PINE from unix shell, all those html > images are not referenced in any way, nor are there re

Re: Mail with no purpose?

2004-04-01 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
To pick on one bulk political mailer, Kintera.Org, mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] contains a tracking gif, a 1x1, within the html portion of a multipart MIME payload. Voila: http://www.kintera.org/omt/70069677.gif'> Yes I've kevetched to the Kucinich campaign that putting tracking gifs in

Re: Mail with no purpose?

2004-04-01 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Eric A. Hall wrote: > On 4/1/2004 11:15 AM, william(at)elan.net wrote: > > > Where as WYSIWYG html email client (no matter if its web-based or > > outlook or mozilla) will reference and display all images contained in > > email > > You can turn it off in Mozilla and some MS

Re: Mail with no purpose?

2004-04-01 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 4/1/2004 11:15 AM, william(at)elan.net wrote: > Where as WYSIWYG html email client (no matter if its web-based or > outlook or mozilla) will reference and display all images contained in > email You can turn it off in Mozilla and some MS clients. It's a pretty common feature nowadays. -- E

Re: Mail with no purpose?

2004-04-01 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Richard Cox wrote: > Some times the request goes to the website, sometimes a DNS request to > nameservers is sufficient to cause the account to be tagged as active. I don't quite understand how that would work. DNS Request does not contain name of who the email is addressed

Re: Mail with no purpose?

2004-04-01 Thread Richard Cox
(Subject line changed to comply with Merit's AUP) On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:28:31 UTC Jerry Eyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it sends a request to the sender's specified website to get the pixel > thus showing them which email accounts are active. Some times the request goes to the website, somet