Re: NAT Multihoming

2007-06-04 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 07:33:45PM -0700, Stephen Satchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 29 lines which said: The last time I renumbered, I found that quite a few people were not honoring the TTLs I put in my DNS zone files. [...] Custom customer zone files hosted elsewhere? Do not

Re: NAT Multihoming

2007-06-04 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 4-jun-2007, at 4:33, Stephen Satchell wrote: The last time I renumbered, I found that quite a few people were not honoring the TTLs I put in my DNS zone files. I would clone the new address and monitor traffic to the old address -- and it took up to seven days for the traffic to the

Re: NAT Multihoming

2007-06-04 Thread Donald Stahl
The last time I renumbered, I found that quite a few people were not honoring the TTLs I put in my DNS zone files. [...] Custom customer zone files hosted elsewhere? Do not forget that applications have their own caches, too, and they typically ignore completely the DNS TTL. A typical Web

Re: NAT Multihoming

2007-06-03 Thread Chris Owen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Simon Leinen wrote: You write when rather than if - is ignoring reasonable TTLs current practice? Definitely. We've seen 15 minute TTLs regularly go 48 hours without updating on Cox or Comcast's name servers. I

Re: NAT Multihoming

2007-06-03 Thread Randy Bush
You write when rather than if - is ignoring reasonable TTLs current practice? Definitely. We've seen 15 minute TTLs regularly go 48 hours without updating on Cox or Comcast's name servers. I believe the most I've seen was 8 days (Cox). i wish all my competitors did that. randy

Re: NAT Multihoming

2007-06-03 Thread Stephen Satchell
Chris Owen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Simon Leinen wrote: You write when rather than if - is ignoring reasonable TTLs current practice? Definitely. We've seen 15 minute TTLs regularly go 48 hours without updating on Cox or Comcast's

Re: NAT Multihoming

2007-06-03 Thread Donald Stahl
You write when rather than if - is ignoring reasonable TTLs current practice? Definitely. We've seen 15 minute TTLs regularly go 48 hours without updating on Cox or Comcast's name servers. I believe the most I've seen was 8 days (Cox). I definitely meant when not if. And Cox is by no

Re: NAT Multihoming (was:Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted)

2007-06-02 Thread Paul Vixie
Cisco has a whitepaper entitled Enabling Enterprise Multihoming with Cisco IOS NAT that addresses this. See http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_white_paper09186a0080091c8a.shtml as well as RFC2260. see also http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/proxynet.pdf. There are indeed a