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- --On Tuesday, January 14, 2003 13:00:38 +0100 Mikael Abrahamsson
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> I had great respect for Axelsson before this incident, after seeing his
> behaviour more up close I nowadays loathe him for his methods.
>
> Let's put
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 06:25:51 -0500 (EST), Miles Fidelman wrote:
>This is why ISPs should be treated as common carriers - just like
>telcos.
>The primary characteristic of common carriers is that they HAVE TO
>serve
>all customers except under very tightly controlled circumstance,
>like a
>court o
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Paul Wouters wrote:
> In the second round, Axelsson went shopping for connectivity. He
> got the one quote after the other with the standard "we will be
> pleased to welcome you as a customer", but shortly later the one
> ISP after the other backed off until none was left. At
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Paul Wouters wrote:
> > This is exactly why ISP's should not be allowed to have these "we will
> > disconnect you at our sole discretion" clauses.
>
> You can't forbid them. Private enterprises have (and should have) every
> right to manage their own business as they want. Ju
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To: Paul Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NYT on Thing.net
Paul Wouters wrote:
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> Perhaps Zenon (Whom I cc:ed just because he knows the details) can
> shed some more light on this.
I hosted and am still hosting a partial mirror of the old Flashback,
including the nazi
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To: Paul Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NYT on Thing.net
Paul Wouters wrote:
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> For those who do not know, Flashback is a Swedish e-zine, that had about a
> million subscribers.
The longer away from the sea, the bigger the fish get. Something in the
order of a hund
(I think I am close to get a notice from Susan so this will be my last
posting on this to Nanog)
The upstream (Air2net?) basically shrugged their shoulders. Fries
went to the upstream's upstream while at the same time he mounted
Air2net was a transit customer of KPNQwest (and not a resell
onan
Rigaku/MSC Inc.
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hi, nanogers --
adam, yeah, as a matter of fact, you are off-base. for starters, you seem
t
Just for the record, your story above is far from complete and not
true
on all accounts. It is also a quite simplified version of what
happened.
Perhaps Zenon (Whom I cc:ed just because he knows the details) can
shed some more light on this.
Well, I was (still is) a member of the Swedish Oper
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
> Just for the record, your story above is far from complete and not true
> on all accounts. It is also a quite simplified version of what
> happened.
Perhaps Zenon (Whom I cc:ed just because he knows the details) can
shed some more light on th
This has been a discussion item in the Swedish ISP business for quite
some time (for a reason).
The matter is actually a lot more complex than what you say above.
How ironic, would that be because of Flashback magazine? :)
To some extent, but not recently. Mostly due to child-porn, TV deco
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
> This has been a discussion item in the Swedish ISP business for quite
> some time (for a reason).
> The matter is actually a lot more complex than what you say above.
How ironic, would that be because of Flashback magazine? :)
For those who do
Uhm. If an ISP has a policy catch-all clause of "We can disconnect
customers at will, without reason" then you get what you deserve,
responsibility for your actions.
After a few big money costing lawsuits over this, I hope ISP's will
return to their common-carrier status. I have no hopes that th
On 2003-01-09-13:13:23, batz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> I suppose that any ISP can turn off a connection they deem
> a threat to the rest of their operations, but I think this
> incident can serve as an example of how ISP's can get dragged
> into political spats. It shows how Verio was
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, batz wrote:
> I suppose that any ISP can turn off a connection they deem
> a threat to the rest of their operations, but I think this
> incident can serve as an example of how ISP's can get dragged
> into political spats. It shows how Verio was manipulated
> by Dow to squelc
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Subject: NYT on Thing.net
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