Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 03:39:25AM -0400, Deepak Jain wrote: [snip] Boxes like Foundry, Extreme, Redback and many others all talk BGP (at least to a first approximation) but is their lack of use in the core/edge/CPE a lack of scale, stability, performance or just interest? One Dutch

Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Deepak Jain wrote: Boxes like Foundry, Extreme, Redback and many others all talk BGP (at least to a first approximation) but is their lack of use in the core/edge/CPE a lack of scale, stability, performance or just interest? With Extreme, it's certainly (in my

Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread jeffrey.arnold
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Deepak Jain wrote: :: Boxes like Foundry, Extreme, Redback and many others all talk BGP :: (at least to a first approximation) but is their lack of use in :: the core/edge/CPE a lack of scale, stability, performance or just :: interest? :: Foundry makes a very good,

Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread Neil J. McRae
A supplier I don't think I'm at liberty to name. When they were good, they were very, very good. But when they were bad they were horrid. Another supplier I don't wish to name. Mostly worked, but crashed if you made even the slighest configuration change. I'm guessing one of them is

Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Peter van Dijk wrote: One Dutch ISP that shall remain unnamed (and is not one I work for or have worked for) deployed Extreme on AMS-IX, with Extreme's BGP implementation. It broke horribly. Then again, AMSIX and their Foundry's break every other day as well :) In

Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 11:35:52AM +0100, Neil J. McRae wrote: A supplier I don't think I'm at liberty to name. When they were good, they were very, very good. But when they were bad they were horrid. Another supplier I don't wish to name. Mostly worked, but crashed if you made

Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread Jim Segrave
On Wed 04 Sep 2002 (11:35 +0100), Neil J. McRae wrote: A supplier I don't think I'm at liberty to name. When they were good, they were very, very good. But when they were bad they were horrid. Another supplier I don't wish to name. Mostly worked, but crashed if you made even the

Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread Simon Leinen
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:30:46 -0400 (EDT), jeffrey.arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Foundry makes a very good, very stable bgp speaker. I've had them in my network alongside cisco's and juniper's for a couple of years now, and i've never run into any bgp implementation problems that i would

RE: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread Daniel Golding
I'm a big fan of both Foundry and Riverstone, as BGP speaking routers. I've had great luck with both. Foundry has some annoying bugs at first, but these seem to have been resolved. I recommend both. - Daniel Golding On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Deepak Jain wrote: :: Boxes like Foundry, Extreme,

RE: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread alex
I have to second that. Riverstone is definitely a solid box. Featurewise, routing protocols are excellent, but services are not quite there. (I.E. it doesn't support any IP tunneling protocol in any shape or form. GRE is extremely useful under some circumstances, but sadly, not with