I've had pretty good luck with OmniGraffle Professional, and, it's fairly
cheap, too. Has many of the features Visio has, and, is gaining more
on a regular basis. It lacks the Visio silly pictures (although you could
create your own easily enough), but, it does understand connections between
Hi Howard,
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:17:44 -0500
Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Much of the enterprise market seems wedded to Visio as their network
graphics tool, which locks them into Windows. Personally, I hate both
little pictures of equipment and Cisco hockey-puck icons;
If you're doing diagrams for internal use and know the chances of them
being used with external parties is slim-to-none, go ahead, play with
toys like dia.
Rather strong opinion...
PDFs are almost 100% acceptable, with a few losers left who won't
install a reader.
Hey, wait a minute!
DIA
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:07:59 +1030, Mark Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't tried it, however there is a probability that Firefox
1.5 can view the .SVGs Inkscape produces natively.
In general, I don't know; however, the copy on my laptop (Firefox
1.5.0.1 on NetBSD-current) can display
John Kinsella wrote:
Not sure how preferring things like rectangles stops you from
using Visio, but *shrug*
Probably has more to do with the other features of Visio. Hidden metadata,
slow VBS, fragile registry dependencies, ... all of which engineers tend to
discover before an important
Much of the enterprise market seems wedded to Visio as their network
graphics tool, which locks them into Windows. Personally, I hate both
little pictures of equipment and Cisco hockey-puck icons; I much
prefer things like rectangles saying 7507 STL-1 or M160 NYC-3.
Assuming you use *NIX
xfig
emacs artist-mode
randy
On Mar 21, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Much of the enterprise market seems wedded to Visio as their
network graphics tool, which locks them into Windows. Personally, I
hate both little pictures of equipment and Cisco hockey-puck icons;
I much prefer things like
KDE has a Visio-like tool called kivio
It was pretty much useless last I looked, but looks like it has some
potential. Think I heard that you would be able to use the visio format
at some point too, probably not yet though.
http://www.koffice.org/kivio/
I've used dia a bit, seems
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:20:19 -1000, Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
xfig
And something I learned only recently -- xfig comes with a large
library of clip art. Here are the categories on my system:
$ ls /usr/pkg/lib/X11/xfig/Libraries/
Arrows Electronic Labels
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Much of the enterprise market seems wedded to Visio as their network
graphics tool, which locks them into Windows. Personally, I hate both
little pictures of equipment and Cisco hockey-puck icons; I much prefer
things like
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Much of the enterprise market seems wedded to Visio as their network graphics
tool, which locks them into Windows. Personally, I hate both little pictures
of equipment and Cisco hockey-puck icons; I much prefer things like
rectangles saying
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 09:17:44PM -0500, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Much of the enterprise market seems wedded to Visio as their network
graphics tool, which locks them into Windows. Personally, I hate both
little pictures of equipment and Cisco hockey-puck icons; I much
prefer things
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Much of the enterprise market seems wedded to Visio as their network
graphics tool, which locks them into Windows. Personally, I hate both
little pictures of equipment and Cisco hockey-puck icons; I much prefer
things like rectangles saying 7507 STL-1 or M160
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, John Kinsella wrote:
If you're doing diagrams for internal use and know the chances of them
being used with external parties is slim-to-none, go ahead, play with
toys like dia. Omnigraffle looks hopeful, but haven't personally used.
Omnigraffle can
An entity claiming to be John Kinsella ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: Not trying to start a Visio religious war, just saying there's a reason
: enterprises use it.
:
And it's not just that they think that having thousands of open stencil
windows is impressive when you open a single diagram?
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Yo Howard!
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 09:17:44PM -0500, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Much of the enterprise market seems wedded to Visio as their network
graphics tool, which locks them into Windows. Personally, I hate both
little pictures of
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Mark Rogaski wrote:
An entity claiming to be John Kinsella ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: Not trying to start a Visio religious war, just saying there's a reason
: enterprises use it.
:
And it's not just that they think that having thousands of open stencil
windows is
Mechanical pencil, a sheet of paper for a straight edge, and a penny
when you want to make a proffesional looking round object. I publish to
Flickr using macro mode on my Fuji Finepix 5100 to make the picture.
No little Cisco hockey puck stencils, but last year when I sketched a
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