Re: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-10 Thread Christian Nielsen
nor that AboveNet would listen to the space from other providers. On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Jeff Aitken wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:45:59PM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > Once upon a time, AboveNet did not permit anyone to announce their IP > > space under any condition. I wonder

Re: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Jeff Aitken
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:45:59PM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > Once upon a time, AboveNet did not permit anyone to announce their IP > space under any condition. I wonder if this is still the case. It is not. Customers may announce MFN-assigned space to other upstreams. Obviously th

Re: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Henry Yen
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:00:28AM -0700, Sean M. Doran wrote: > | UUNet suggested that any problems encountered > | as a result of this allocation could probably solved by e-mailing > | any NSP whose traffic interchange with us might be negatively > | affected (unlikely, to be sure, but still...

RE: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Sean M. Doran
| With enough badgering most providers will accept a /24 announcement of PA | space. With a token offer to make a payment of, say, 150 dollars, you will save yourself considerable badgering time and effort. Of course, if time isn't money, or you don't believe in negotiations (think ebay...),

Re: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Sean M. Doran
| UUNet suggested that any problems encountered | as a result of this allocation could probably solved by e-mailing | any NSP whose traffic interchange with us might be negatively | affected (unlikely, to be sure, but still...), and would then | change their filter (I'm unconvinced of this scenar

Re: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 07:44:31AM +0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > I don't exactly anticipate this ever happening. My observation is > > that the scaling will happen in the router area, i.e. as more and > > more smaller blocks get announced out of the class A/class B space, > > the ability of

Re: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:35:15PM -0700, Sharif Torpis wrote: > > Some folks phrase it the way you did. Others phrase it that Exodus > has stringent routing policies that prevent customers from doing > silly things with Exodus IP space rather than obtaining their own PI > space. Such silly thin

Re: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002, Henry Yen wrote: > I don't exactly anticipate this ever happening. My observation is > that the scaling will happen in the router area, i.e. as more and > more smaller blocks get announced out of the class A/class B space, > the ability of routers to hold more routes will

RE: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Sharif Torpis
Some folks phrase it the way you did. Others phrase it that Exodus has stringent routing policies that prevent customers from doing silly things with Exodus IP space rather than obtaining their own PI space. Such silly things are detrimental to the stability of one's backbone. Permitting such si

Re: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Jim Hickstein
I'm listening intently, here. I have an even smaller block from UUnet (63.107.133.0/24) in what ARIN declares to be a /20 CIDR block, and I'm having the devil of a time getting Level3 (my other ) to actually announce this route. UUnet has time and again told me that they need do nothing for

Re: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Henry Yen
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:34:44AM -0500, Borchers, Mark wrote: > http://www.arin.net/statistics/index.html#ipv4issued2002 The CIDR section is the part you're referring to? http://www.arin.net/statistics/index.html#cidr which indicates /20. > Unfortunately, this doesn't help in your case.

RE: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread LeBlanc, Jason
7; Subject: RE: [Q] BGP filtering policies If you'll look at this pointer to one of ARIN's pages, it lists the minimum allocation size for each CIDR block that IANA has given ARIN to manage. From what I've seen, most providers accept at least up to the prefix length that the RIR&#

RE: [Q] BGP filtering policies

2002-04-09 Thread Borchers, Mark
If you'll look at this pointer to one of ARIN's pages, it lists the minimum allocation size for each CIDR block that IANA has given ARIN to manage. From what I've seen, most providers accept at least up to the prefix length that the RIR's are using, if not longer. http://www.arin.net/statistics