We have lost connectivity from them since last friday.
If you send an email to their NOC you will get an autoreply saying:
The KPNQwest Network Operations Center was CLOSED on 19/07/2002
As everybody knew they did have a really proactive and responsive NOC.
It is sad to see things like
The KPNQwest Network Operations Center was CLOSED on 19/07/2002
As everybody knew they did have a really proactive and responsive NOC.
It is sad to see things like thi happen. :-(
indeed. it's rare these days that a noc is given enough budget and authority
to do a good job. as286
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Huopio Kauto wrote:
Interesting how quietly one of the powerhouses in Europe has been shut
down yesterday evening. Any notes on increased latency / routing issues
wrt AS286 shutdown?
Does anyone know what happened to the Ebone/KPNQWEST European-wide DWDM
system? I
What is the legal position of an IRU deal if the cable owner goes belly
up?
Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on - they
are worthless.
- kurtis -
Does anyone know what happened to the Ebone/KPNQWEST European-wide DWDM
system? I figure that if it was shut down, we would see more impact.
It's beeing sold off in pices.
Their IP network load I bet was quite easily handled by other operators
considering the huge over-capacity situation
What is the legal position of an IRU deal if the cable owner goes belly
up?
Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on - they
are worthless.
How about duct IRU:s?
--kauto
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on - they
are worthless.
You can make fiber IRUs stick even if the company who bought the fiber
goes belly up.
IRUs (Indefeasible Rights of Use seems to be the acronym?) as far
At 10:27 AM 25-07-02 +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on - they
are worthless.
You can make fiber IRUs stick even if the company who bought the fiber
goes belly up.
IRUs
You can make fiber IRUs stick even if the company who bought the fiber
goes belly up.
IRUs (Indefeasible Rights of Use seems to be the acronym?) as far as I
know, is just that, you actually own the fibers you IRUed for the time
being.
As with everything in life, it will always depend
--On Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:23:38 +0300 Huopio Kauto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the legal position of an IRU deal if the cable owner goes belly
up?
Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on -
they are worthless.
How about duct IRU:s?
Some what
Does anyone know what happened to the Ebone/KPNQWEST European-wide DWDM
system? I figure that if it was shut down, we would see more impact.
Most people have made other arrangements, and most of the IP customers
were ISPs themselves with other upstreams. We have seen some issues
with less
Uhm, how many pan-European _fiber_ owners is there? Not that many. Most
of that over capacity was bought from KQ in Europe...
COLT, Telia, Dynergy, BT Ignite [I think], Level 3, LDcom, others.
KQ was excellent at marketing themselves as the only company who
had pan-European fibre but
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:53:55 +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Their IP network load I bet was quite easily handled by other operators
considering the huge over-capacity situation we have had the past years.
Contributory cause?
Well, several of the companies you mention above where actually large
customers of KQ. Although you are right in that they had pices of the
network themselves. I agree with you that KQ marketing was a stroy in
itslef, but for pan-European fiber assets, there are very few own it all.
Yes
Yes one of the myths that I used to hear was that COLTs european
network relied upon KQ, which it didn't. The other issue is local network
As ex-KQ I agree with you. But there where plenty of others.
access of course, its fine having these huge fibre networks that
are point to point, but
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 09:46:07AM +0300, Huopio Kauto wrote:
Interesting how quietly one of the powerhouses in Europe has been shut
down yesterday evening. Any notes on increased latency / routing issues
wrt AS286 shutdown?
On a much quieter note, how many people noticed that AS1673
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