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Just spoke to cogent about another issue, said they only know about
issues in Los Angeles. Nevertheless, 877.726.4386 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/Ryan
Mike Fedyk wrote:
Hi,
Some of our VoIP customers are experiencing issues using our service and it
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan
Harden
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:35 PM
To: Mike Fedyk
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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Just spoke to cogent about another issue, said they only know about issues
in Los
To: Ryan Harden
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Cogent Router dropping packets
Thank you, the issue seems to be fixed now at Cogent.
Cogent frequently have routing and packet loss issues. I can't imagine
VoIP over their network is all that appealing to most people. Last time
I used Cogent I had a problem approx. every month, and I purchased
transit from them.
Good luck :-)
Mike Fedyk wrote:
Thank you, the issue seems
Subject: Re: Cogent Router dropping packets
Cogent frequently have routing and packet loss issues. I can't imagine
VoIP over their network is all that appealing to most people. Last time
I used Cogent I had a problem approx. every month, and I purchased
transit from them.
Good luck :-)
Mike Fedyk
Not at Switch and Data, Tyco Road, Tysons Corner.
Regards
Marshall
On Feb 10, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Andre Reid wrote:
Hi All,
Anyone having issues with Cogent right now?
I'm seeing problems in DC area, opening a ticket with them right now.
Thx,
Andre
Andre Reid
617/904-5018
[EMAIL
Thanks Marshall,
Cogent reset their BGP with Global Crossing and seems to be back up now.
Waiting for detailed follow up.
Andre
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From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:36 AM
To: Andre Reid
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re
and seems to be back up now.
Waiting for detailed follow up.
Andre
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From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:36 AM
To: Andre Reid
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Cogent Issue anyone?
Not at Switch and Data, Tyco
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message
reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also
seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint.
2
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated
message reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency,
but they also seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint.
Are you sure that this is not
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Basil Kruglov wrote:
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated
message
reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but
they also
seem to be experiencing
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:00:13AM -0400, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Are you sure that this is not in Sprint, or even Duke Energy ?
I can't ping to 192.234.122.137 from either home or work, and I don't
see any signs of Cogent problems
from Tyco Road / Tysons Corner.
It would seem that this
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message
reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also
seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint.
We're seeing very similar
Subject
Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:00:13AM -0400, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Are you sure that this is not in Sprint, or even Duke Energy ?
I can't ping to 192.234.122.137 from either home or work, and I don't
see any signs of Cogent problems
from
We shut off Cogent around 9:00 because of routing issues to Telia and other
parts of the Net.
From http://status.cogentco.com
**
** Cogent Network Status Report Last Updated Wed Oct 10 10:55:40 2007 **
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message reports
that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also seem to be
experiencing peering problems with Sprint.
There may be some internal problems on the Sprint network; I'm unable to hit
Wow, pasted the wrong traceroute AND hit send instead of delete. It's
another great day around here. More caffeine, stat
Sprint EVDO network still seems flaky from here, but I'm waiting for one of
my more technical users to get online for troubleshooting purposes. The
duke-energy.com IP is
Maybe they depeered themselves. They seem to be on a roll!
It's quite ironic and they (Cogent) are quite contradicting themselves.
When their CEO, Dave Schaffer comes out to media and bashes Level3, France
Telecom, AOL, etc (the list goes on), citing Cogent is being unfairly
treated, each
It's quite ironic and they (Cogent) are quite contradicting themselves.
When their CEO, Dave Schaffer comes out to media and bashes Level3, France
Telecom, AOL, etc (the list goes on), citing Cogent is being unfairly
treated, each and every time Cogent gets depeered, you would think Cogent
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Mike Lyon wrote:
Anyone else seeing it?
BGP_Level3traceroute 208.70.27.35
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 208.70.27.35
1 4.79.220.77 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
2 4.68.123.30 [AS 3356] 8 msec 0 msec 4 msec
3 4.68.18.5
We're seeing very poor performance on Cogent in Chicago to major sites
such as CNN and Salon. Traceroutes indicate packets dropping inside
Cogent's network and at their handoff to at atdn.net. Opened a ticket with
Cogent around 10am Central, haven't heard from anybody since.
Not necessarily
CNN and www.archive.org were the two sites I couldn't get to...
-Mike
On 9/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We're seeing very poor performance on Cogent in Chicago to major sites
such as CNN and Salon. Traceroutes indicate packets dropping inside Cogent's
network and at
Maybe they depeered themselves. They seem to be on a roll!
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Mike Lyon
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:39 PM
To: NANOG
Subject: Cogent issues in SF area?
Anyone else seeing it?
The archive.org/Cogent stuff was an issue specific to archive.org's
connection to Cogent.
Jim Shankland
http://www.e-gerbil.net/cogent-t1r looks like they're playing the
depeering games again.
E
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mike Lyon
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Cogent
No problem here...
computer:~ hexstar$ traceroute 208.70.27.35
traceroute to 208.70.27.35 (208.70.27.35), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1) 2.672 ms 1.937 ms 1.730 ms
2 * * *
3 ge-2-8-ur01.oakland.ca.sfba.comcast.net (68.86.249.113) 11.590 ms
11.371 ms 15.132 ms
4
Hi, David, everyone --
On 21 Aug 2007, at 17:55, David Lesher wrote:
And still not getting it. A friend oversees various expensive USG
networks. They pay for physically diverse routing from multiple
sources. Yet every year, when they do an laborious audit down to
the what fiber, in what
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Andy Davidson wrote:
Is it not possible to require that each of your suppliers provide over a
specified path ? I'm planning a build-out that will require a diverse path
between two points, and one supplier has named two routes, and promised that
they wont change for the
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Andy Davidson wrote:
Is it not possible to require that each of your suppliers provide over a
specified path ? I'm planning a build-out that will require a diverse path
between two points, and one supplier has named two routes, and promised that
they wont change for the
Pardon my forwardness, but don't people just multi-home these days? If your
network connection is that mission critical, then having at least two providers
would be prudent. Keep Cogent for el cheapo/variable latency connection, but
have a reliable second and/or third source (i.e. Sprint,
At 03:49 AM 8/22/2007, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote:
Pardon my forwardness, but don't people just multi-home these days? If your
Multihoming is great for when there is a total outage. In the case
of Cogent on Monday, it wasnt down... In this case, there is only
so much you can do to
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Or there might suddenly be a reason/market for properly physically diverse
paths which provide partial 1:1 (ie, some services are guaranteed full
backup
bandwidth, other services get
On Aug 21, 2007, at 12:55 PM, David Lesher wrote:
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Or there might suddenly be a reason/market for properly
physically diverse
paths which provide partial 1:1 (ie, some services are
It's inevitable given buying throughput is rather like moving
something by ship. You never go to the ship [fiber] owner; you
go to a freight broker who deals with a consolidator who calls an
agent who knows who has chartered ships from A to B on DATE and
This may also have something to do
Not seeing any Cogent problems in Tyson's Corner, Virginia
Regards
Marshall
On Aug 20, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote:
Does anyone have any details about the Cogent outage that started
this morning (9am GMT-400) and is still continuing ? If its a
fibre cut between Montville
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:21:38 -0400
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Cogent latency / congestion
Does anyone have any details about the Cogent outage that started
this morning (9am GMT-400) and is still continuing ? If its a fibre
cut between Montville (NJ?) and Cleveland OH
Yes, their status page is not accurate. We're seeing traffic hitting
the bitbucket at various locations on their network including Dallas
(IAH) and Ashburn (IAD). It's be nice if they pulled their routes for
this stuff.
For example:
traceroute to grouse.dabbledb.com (64.15.129.72), 64
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:21:38 -0400
From: Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone have any details about the Cogent outage that started
this morning (9am GMT-400) and is still continuing ? If its a fibre
cut between Montville (NJ?) and Cleveland OH
We're going crazy up here, I'm trying to nail down where exactly the
problem is - We don't use Cogent anywhere, but we're having terrible
problems with Bell and many sites in Europe...
Mike Tancsa wrote:
Does anyone have any details about the Cogent outage that started this
morning
Cogent is reporting a fiber cut in ohio. http://status.cogentco.com
-Zak
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From: Robert Bonomi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: nanog@merit.edu
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Cogent latency / congestion
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:21:38 -0400
On 8/20/07, Robert Bonomi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No details, but I've seen reports of 100+ms between S.F. and L.A. on
Cogent, as well.
hexstars-computer:~ hexstar$ traceroute status.cogentco.com
traceroute to status.cogentco.com (38.9.51.60), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 10.0.1.1
At 03:54 PM 8/20/2007, Dan Armstrong wrote:
We're going crazy up here, I'm trying to nail down where exactly the
problem is - We don't use Cogent anywhere, but we're having terrible
problems with Bell and many sites in Europe...
Bell uses Cogent in a large way. The second traceroute was from
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:11:44 -0400
From: Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 03:54 PM 8/20/2007, Dan Armstrong wrote:
We're going crazy up here, I'm trying to nail down where exactly the
problem is - We don't use Cogent anywhere, but we're having terrible
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote:
Bell uses Cogent in a large way. The second traceroute was from an IP in
their AS (577) out. I am prepending out Cogent, but Bell does everything it
can not to use Teleglobe so I am having problems influencing their routes to
come back that way.
This appears to be affecting Telia as well. Here was their last update:
Concerning the cable break near Cleveland we have been informed that
the cables have been intentionally sabotaged. The provider informed that
they need to change the whole damaged fibre part and that is 3600 feet.
@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Cogent latency / congestion
This appears to be affecting Telia as well. Here was their last update:
Concerning the cable break near Cleveland we have been informed that
the cables have been intentionally sabotaged. The provider informed that
they need to change the whole
Eric Spaeth wrote:
This appears to be affecting Telia as well. Here was their last update:
Concerning the cable break near Cleveland we have been informed that
the cables have been intentionally sabotaged. The provider informed that
they need to change the whole damaged fibre part and
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:25:12 +0100
From: Rod Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As opposed to 'unintentionally sabotaged'? I think there is some
redundancy there ...
Sorry for the cheap shot, it was just too tempting.
Roderick S. Beck
Director of EMEA Sales
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Deepak Jain wrote:
Sounds like a DHS/FBI investigation will be starting soon.
Eesh.. if we start having to secure 500,000 route miles of fiber routes
against sabotage, um... well, I guess I'll have to become a fiber
installation contractor. :)
That and carriers will
If someone sabotages a rail to stop a train and the derailment takes out
the fiber that is buried in the right-of-way, is that unintentional
sabotage? At least of the fiber?
That's not sabotage at all.
As it relates to the fiber, its not deliberately and maliciously
destroying [fiber]...
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:17:21 -0400
From: Deepak Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If someone sabotages a rail to stop a train and the derailment takes out
the fiber that is buried in the right-of-way, is that unintentional
sabotage? At least of the fiber?
That's not sabotage at all.
As it
Deepak Jain wrote:
That said, Cogent's page says nothing about sabotage
(status.cogentco.com) and I can't find the reference on teliasonera's
page Link please?
The updates I received from Telia have only been verbal, but they
indicated that an entire span of fiber would need to be
I see Cogent has updated their page - so we think this cut is fixed now?
Eric Spaeth wrote:
This appears to be affecting Telia as well. Here was their last update:
Concerning the cable break near Cleveland we have been informed that
the cables have been intentionally sabotaged. The
At 05:43 PM 8/20/2007, Steve Gibbard wrote:
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote:
Bell uses Cogent in a large way. The second traceroute was from an
IP in their AS (577) out. I am prepending out Cogent, but Bell
does everything it can not to use Teleglobe so I am having problems
Just saw an ETR of 11:00AM EDT from http://status.cogentco.com
Chuck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Scott Francis
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:40 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Cogent outage details?
am receiving word that Cogent
They have been updating that ETR every 40 minutes. The first ETR was
supposed to be 9:30.
-Matt
Mills, Charles wrote:
Just saw an ETR of 11:00AM EDT from http://status.cogentco.com
Chuck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Scott
It still says 11:00am
*looks at watch*
Matt Liotta wrote:
They have been updating that ETR every 40 minutes. The first ETR was
supposed to be 9:30.
-Matt
Mills, Charles wrote:
Just saw an ETR of 11:00AM EDT from http://status.cogentco.com
Chuck
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From: [EMAIL
My Gig-E Cogent link (Tyco Rd, Vienna Virginia) seems to be fine now.
There was scheduled maintenance 3:00 AM - 7:00 AM, followed by a lot
of ~ 5 second drops of packet transit. Haven't had any issues since ~
9:00 AM EDT.
Regards
Marshall
On Jul 27, 2007, at 11:10 AM, David Coulson
Do you not know what your traffic ratios are with Cogent? You can easily
get this information using Sflow or Netflow.
Keith O'Neill
Pando Networks
Kevin Billings wrote:
Can someone tell me if there are any tools on the net we can use to
evaluate Cogent as a possible Tier 1 peer. We are
Keith,
I believe he meant he would like to purchase transit from Cogent.
-Randy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
keith
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:53 PM
To: Kevin Billings
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Cogent Peering
Do
neal, all,
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 05:46:43PM -0600, nealr wrote:
I've not watched here closely for a number of years, but I now have a
Sprint connected customer who is hating life and Cogent seems to be part
of the equation. Can someone fill me in on the history of their
relationship?
On Oct 31, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Bob Collie wrote:
That looks like a transit connection that Cogent bought at Ashburn,
VA,
not SFI peering connection.
Hrmm, I can't tell by looking at a traceroute who paid whom, if
anyone. Care to explain your magic? Is there a code in the in-
addrs?
On Oct 31, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Bob Collie wrote:
That looks like a transit connection that Cogent bought at Ashburn,
VA,
not SFI peering connection.
Hrmm, I can't tell by looking at a traceroute who paid whom, if
anyone. Care to explain your magic? Is there a code in the in-
addrs?
Patrick W. Gilmore schrieb:
Hrmm, I can't tell by looking at a traceroute who paid whom, if
anyone. Care to explain your magic? Is there a code in the in-addrs?
Perhaps sl-$FOO means something in Sprint-speak?
Secondly, does anyone really give a rat's ass who is SFI any
longer? There are at
Hi Fredy,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fredy Kuenzler) wrote:
Think of 174 started to peer with 1239 and redirecting some outbound
traffic to 3320 over this new peer. Since 3320 is buying from 1239, they
will pay more to 1239, and 1239 accepts 174 as a new peer because they
get more money from 3320
That looks like a transit connection that Cogent bought at Ashburn, VA,
not SFI peering connection.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ed Ray
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:11 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Cogent now peering with
11:13 PM
To: Ed Ray; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Cogent now peering with Sprint?
That looks like a transit connection that Cogent bought at Ashburn, VA,
not SFI peering connection.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ed Ray
Sent: Tuesday
We have a cage at Telecity on the isle of dogs and we just lost our vpn
connections to there and now everything is dying at cogent.
Which Telecity on the Isle of Dogs. :-)
A couple of messages on the LINX ops list suggest there are power
issues at Telecity Bonnington House at the moment...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*Cogent Network Status/DNS Server Status Description:
*Welcome to Cogent Communications’ Network Status Message. Today is
Thursday April 27th 2006 10am EST.
At this time, Cogent is experiencing latency and routing issues on the
Cogent backbone. The NOC is currently
: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cogent network wide latency
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*Cogent Network Status/DNS Server Status Description:
*Welcome to Cogent Communications' Network Status Message. Today is
Thursday April 27th 2006 10am EST.
At this time
I just got an update from cogent, I was advised that
they have 80, eighty sites down. They are still working to restore
services to those sites.
---Frontline
Communicationsv. 888-FRONTLINE
(888.376.6854)
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 06:41:04PM -0500, David Coulson wrote:
Apparently Cogent had a fiber cut between Santa Clara and Houston which
is screwing their network up pretty nicely (I'm seeing 60m of latency
between two routers in Chicago).
You mean WCG had a fiber cut, just west of Houston.
At 11:53 AM 08/02/2006, Joseph Nuara wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on the current Cogent latency issues? The
scoreboard is lit up like a Tree ... Thanks.
http://status.cogentco.com
Cogent Network Status/DNS Server Status Description: Welcome to
Cogent Communications' Network Status
Fiber cut ...
http://status.cogentco.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Joseph Nuara
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:53 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Cogent
Can anyone shed some light on the current Cogent latency issues?
Heard rumor of a fiber cut near chicago..
Brance
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Joseph Nuara
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:53 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Cogent
Can anyone shed some light on the current Cogent latency
Heya,
I'm not sure what's going on, but we were seeing problems on outbound traces
on their DC-JFK-BOS stretch (we're connected to them in Boston) but it looks
like it might have cleared itself up a few mintues ago.
Eric :)
Take a look at this:
http://scoreboard.keynote.com/scoreboard/Main.aspx?Login=YUsername=publicPassword=public
I just got off the phone with Cogent. They said there was a fiber cut in the
eastern-US. The representative did not have specific details. They said
either in the NY or DC area.
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Cogent issues
Take a look at this:
http://scoreboard.keynote.com/scoreboard/Main.aspx?Login=YUse
rname=publicPassword=public
I just got off the phone with Cogent. They said there was a
fiber cut in the
eastern-US. The representative did not have specific
I'm going to try this again. It seems like my messages are not going
through.
Regards,
Ryan
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:04:29 -0500 (EST)
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Cogent Issues... (Update)
Cogent is experiencing 2 fiber cuts in the
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Erik Haagsman
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: John Payne; Patrick W.Gilmore; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 18:48
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Drew Weaver wrote:
Well, the other funny thing is that SBC doesn't just spend its
own money to build these networks. They get all sorts of help from
gov't, etc with taxes and multiple other breaks.
I think that was the original complaint.
Comcast is wrong, she
Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
Pete Templin wrote:
John Curran wrote:
Cold-potato only addresses the long-haul; there's still cost on the
receiving network even if its handed off at the closest interconnect
to the final destination(s).
And there's still revenue, as the traffic is going to
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 18:48 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:46:20 EST, John Payne said:
What am I missing?
Obviously, the same thing that management at SBC is missing:
snip
He argued that because SBC and others have invested to build high-speed
networks, they
Sounds like an extremely short-sighted view of the Net and it's
economics. Claiming content providers should be charged for using
broadband access-pipes is fine and dandy, but coveniently forgetting
that without content there probably wouldn't be a great deal of
customers wanting broadband
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 08:22:20AM -0600, Pete Templin wrote:
Time out here. John set the stage: cold potato addressed the long haul
(or at least that's the assumption in place when I hopped on board). If
NetA and NetB are honoring MED (or other appropriate knob), NetA-NetB
traffic has
Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
Yes with enough time and energy (or a small enough network) you *can* beat
perfect MEDs out of the system (and your customers). You can selectively
deaggregate the hell out of your network, then you can zero out all the
known aggregate blocks and regions that are
I don't understand them, either. However, if you define incoming
traffic as bad, it encourages depeering by the receiving side if the
incoming/outgoing ratio exceeds a certain value, especially among
close-to-tier-1 carriers: the traffic does not automatically disappear
just because you
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 02:44:20PM -0600, Pete Templin wrote:
I came up with a reasonably scalable solution using communities and
route-map continue, but:
For what value of scalable?
--Jeff
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Jeff Aitken wrote:
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 02:44:20PM -0600, Pete Templin wrote:
I came up with a reasonably scalable solution using communities and
route-map continue, but:
For what value of scalable?
anything, its 'scalable' :)
Steve
Jeff Aitken wrote:
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 02:44:20PM -0600, Pete Templin wrote:
I came up with a reasonably scalable solution using communities and
route-map continue, but:
For what value of scalable?
For me, plenty, but a four-POP single-state network usually has
different constraints
For me, plenty, but a four-POP single-state network usually has
different constraints on scalable. However, I'd categorize it as one
community-list per MED tier (i.e. if you just want near/far, that's two
tiers, etc.) and one community-list entry per POP (or group of POPs, if
you have some
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 05:13:27PM -0600, Pete Templin wrote:
For me, plenty, but a four-POP single-state network usually has
different constraints on scalable.
Right.
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 06:20:39PM -0500, Deepak Jain wrote:
I think Pete is saying that as long as you aren't a
Hi John,
Even with cold-potato routing, there is an expense in handling increased
levels of traffic that is destined for your network. This increase in traffic
often has no new revenue associated with it, because it is fanning out to
thousands of flat-rate consumer/small-business
At 12:27 PM + 11/1/05, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
Hi John,
Even with cold-potato routing, there is an expense in handling increased
levels of traffic that is destined for your network. This increase in
traffic
often has no new revenue associated with it, because it is fanning out to
On Nov 1, 2005, at 7:53 AM, John Curran wrote:
At 12:27 PM + 11/1/05, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
Hi John,
Even with cold-potato routing, there is an expense in handling
increased
levels of traffic that is destined for your network. This
increase in traffic
often has no new revenue
At 9:40 AM -0500 11/1/05, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I think everyone agrees that unbalanced ratios can create a situation where
one side pays more than the other. However, assuming something can be used to
keep the costs equal (e.g. cold-potato?),
Cold-potato only addresses the long-haul;
John Curran wrote:
Cold-potato only addresses the long-haul; there's still cost on the
receiving network even if its handed off at the closest interconnect
to the final destination(s).
And there's still revenue, as the traffic is going to customers (we all
filter our prefixes carefully,
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, John Curran wrote:
I do not see how one network can tell another: You can't send me what
my customers are requesting of you.
Depeering seems to say exactly that, no?
No. Presumably, that traffic's still going to be exchanged between the
two networks' customers.
Pete Templin wrote:
John Curran wrote:
Cold-potato only addresses the long-haul; there's still cost on the
receiving network even if its handed off at the closest interconnect
to the final destination(s).
And there's still revenue, as the traffic is going to customers (we all
filter our
On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
If your business model is to provide flat-rate access, it is not
_my_ responsibility to ensure your customers do not use more access
than your flat-rate can compensate you to deliver.
That is something that has always confused me
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