On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:28:44PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
> So, the US Government wants to classify Sean Gorman's student project.
> The question is did Mr. Gorman's maps divulge the vulnerability in the
> East Coast power grid that resulted in the blackouts this week?
>
> Would it be better
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The reason for that is that if one does not call call before dig, one would
> be liable. If one does call and misunderstands, the survey company would be
> liable. So those companies prefer to leave very clear marks.
The way it works in California i
> > > The "Dig Safe" program might be a good model for controlling access to
> > > Sean's work. This would not preclude further scholarship on Sean's work
> > > but it would keep the data out of the hands of the 31337 crowd.
> > Huh ?, Try this on for size , "Hello , I am joe's contractin
> > The "Dig Safe" program might be a good model for controlling access to
> > Sean's work. This would not preclude further scholarship on Sean's work
> > but it would keep the data out of the hands of the 31337 crowd.
> Huh ?, Try this on for size , "Hello , I am joe's contracting
>
We have a permutation of this in NH. When the hole is greater than 1'
deep we need a permit. This does illustrate the difficulties though we
have too much government interference now. _but_ we do need some way of
ensuring that information is used responsibly and I do not think that a
government
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:15:02 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Scott McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Information should be free. This however assumes that people will be
> _responsible_ for what is done with the information.
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> On Manuel and Jose - with a valid permit
Information should be free. This however assumes that people will be
_responsible_ for what is done with the information.
On Manuel and Jose - with a valid permit number they get the information
if Bubba and Joe do not have a _valid_ permit number they do not get the
information because in the
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
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> Remember that Dig Safe is implemented on a state by state basis some of
> the programs like the one you describe are dreadful. The one in my home
> state is fairly thorough in checking bona fides before providing the data
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Scott McGrath wrote:
> Remember when you go to a library to study rare manuscripts you generally
> need to prove to the curator that you have a legitimate scholarly interest
> in the documents not simply random curiousity.
That's because those old manuscripts are fragile, no
Remember that Dig Safe is implemented on a state by state basis some of
the programs like the one you describe are dreadful. The one in my home
state is fairly thorough in checking bona fides before providing the data
I believe in setting a fairly low bar for access to this information i.e.
can
Hello Scott ,
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Scott McGrath wrote:
> A measured response is needed. Obviosly we do not want the
> vulnerabilities disclosed to bored teenagers looking for "excitement".
> We need controlled access to this data so that those of us who need the
> data to fix vulnerabil
A measured response is needed. Obviosly we do not want the
vulnerabilities disclosed to bored teenagers looking for "excitement".
We need controlled access to this data so that those of us who need the
data to fix vulnerabilities can gain access to it but access is denied to
people without a leg
>Capacity isn't the problem. The problem is that there aren't enough lines
>between the providers and consumers to carry the current volume.
>Eric A. Hall
Exactly, and everyone on this list should realize this exists in EVERY
utility. A quote from CNN.com, Money section:
"However, the wirele
on 8/17/2003 9:09 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Org A makes a killing. Given that the players were producers, buyers
> and sellers of the same product this creates no incentaive to build out
> additional capasity. Quite different from say, Hog futures, were the
> supply side and demand side are
On Sunday 17 August 2003 06:28 pm, Having folded space, the Third Stage
Guild Navigator said:
> So, the US Government wants to classify Sean Gorman's student project.
> The question is did Mr. Gorman's maps divulge the vulnerability in the
> East Coast power grid that resulted in the blackouts th
-So, the US Government wants to classify Sean Gorman's student project.
-The question is did Mr. Gorman's maps divulge the vulnerability in the
-East Coast power grid that resulted in the blackouts this week?
-Would it be better to know about these vulnerabilities, and do something
-about them;
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