>
> Original posting from Declan McCullagh's PoliTech mailing list. Thought
> NANOGers would be interested since, if this bill passes, it would impact
> almost all of us. Just imagine the impact on security of not being able
> to login IP address and referring page of all web server connections!
>
* Frank Louwers:
> Strange thing is that we have exact the opposite here in Europe. There
> is a new bill that has been passed that forces us to keep al logs (mail
> and web) for at least 1 or 2 years.
It's not a bill, it's a EU directive which still has to be implemented
in national law. Nothi
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 11:31:48AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:14:11 GMT, Andy Davidson said:
> > It's interesting that the US government is requiring less user data is
> > stored when European politicians are calling for greater data and log
> > retention rules.
>
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Hyunseog Ryu wrote:
I guess the question is how to read "legitimate" word. ^.^
I guess the bill was written in mind of privacy concern.
But also there is some requirement for security/law-enforcement viewpoint.
I received the request from some law-enforcement about actual
This is a pro-privacy bill that would regulate business, and it's been
introduced by a Democrat in a Republican-controlled Congress with a
Republican president, at a time when privacy is out of favor. It's not
going to pass. (To me, of course, that's a bug, especially since I'd
rather that st
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:47:50 -0500
> From: "Jon R. Kibler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:14:23 -0800
> > From: Declan McCullagh
> >
> > I've posted the text here:
> > http://www.politechbot.com/docs/markey.data.deletion.bill.020806.pdf
> >
> > A summary is here:
> >
I guess the question is how to read "legitimate" word. ^.^
I guess the bill was written in mind of privacy concern.
But also there is some requirement for security/law-enforcement viewpoint.
I received the request from some law-enforcement about actual user of IP
address 3 year ago or older.
With
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, David Hubbard wrote:
From: Andy Davidson
Speaking with my e-commerce vendor hat on, server logs (apache, mail,
application audit logs) and other information about visitors
(especially those who have conducted a purchase transaction with
us, or signed up to our newslett
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:14:11 GMT, Andy Davidson said:
> It's interesting that the US government is requiring less user data is
> stored when European politicians are calling for greater data and log
> retention rules.
Obviously, none of the Total Info Awareness proponents were able to get
their
Mark Borchers wrote:
Strange thing is that we have exact the opposite here in Europe. There
is a new bill that has been passed that forces us to keep al
logs (mail and web) for at least 1 or 2 years.
Vriendelijke groeten,
Frank Louwers
That is far scarier.
Which hard drive vendor wrot
From: Andy Davidson
>
>
> Speaking with my e-commerce vendor hat on, server logs (apache, mail,
> application audit logs) and other information about visitors
> (especially those who have conducted a purchase transaction with
> us, or signed up to our newsletter) never stop having a business
>
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
On 2/14/06, Jon R. Kibler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"A bill just announced in Congress would require every Web site operator
to delete information about visitors, including e-mail addresses, if the
data is no longer required for a "legitimate" business purpose.
O
> Strange thing is that we have exact the opposite here in Europe. There
> is a new bill that has been passed that forces us to keep al
> logs (mail and web) for at least 1 or 2 years.
>
> Vriendelijke groeten,
> Frank Louwers
That is far scarier.
On 2/14/06, Frank Louwers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Strange thing is that we have exact the opposite here in Europe. There
> is a new bill that has been passed that forces us to keep al logs (mail
> and web) for at least 1 or 2 years.
6 months to 2 years I think.
http://blogs.iht.com/tribtalk/
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 10:33:19AM -0500, David G. Andersen wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 09:47:50AM -0500, Jon R. Kibler scribed:
> > >
> > > http://www.politechbot.com/docs/markey.data.deletion.bill.020806.pdf
> > >
> > > to delete information about visitors, including e-mail addresses,
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 09:47:50AM -0500, Jon R. Kibler scribed:
> >
> > http://www.politechbot.com/docs/markey.data.deletion.bill.020806.pdf
> >
> > to delete information about visitors, including e-mail addresses, if the
> > data is no longer required for a "legitimate" business purpose.
> >
On 2/14/06, Jon R. Kibler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "A bill just announced in Congress would require every Web site operator
> > to delete information about visitors, including e-mail addresses, if the
> > data is no longer required for a "legitimate" business purpose.
> Original posting fro
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