For Lebanon:
Here is the MPT's web site on submarine cables:
http://www.mpt.gov.lb/berytar.htm
It has links to aletar and cadmos as well.
Chip Sharp
Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Dear Sean;
Do you know how Syria, Jordan and Lebanon get their connectivity ?
They have dropped off the map today
Analyzing the Internet Collapse
"analysing press sensationalist hyperbole"
http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/20152/?nlid=854
not bad. but no new insight and facts differ from other reports
(marsailles).
randy
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> A few afterthoughts after receiving a number of offlist mailings responding
> to my earlier post of yesterday concerning the naval submarine, Jimmy Carter
I will have to read up on that boat.
apropos this subthread, I recommend these two books (I've read both) that le
There is an important point to make here. The word 'cut' is misleading as it
suggests that someone cut it.
The correct terminology is 'non-operational cable'. Shakespeare faces no
competition from my industry ...
Most cable failures occur when deep ocean currents rub the cable against rocks
a
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:11:13 -0600
Frank Coluccio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Today's MIT Technology Review newsletter contains an article by John
> Borland, aided in large part by Tim Strong of Telegeography Research,
> covering the recent spate of submarine cable failures in the ME:
>
> An
Today's MIT Technology Review newsletter contains an article by John Borland,
aided in large part by Tim Strong of Telegeography Research, covering the recent
spate of submarine cable failures in the ME:
Analyzing the Internet Collapse
By John Borland | Feb 5, 2008
MIT Technology Review
Multiple
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Steve Gibbard
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:39 PM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: [admin] Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest
> (Qatar to UAE)
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Kee Hinckley wrote:
>
> > Which leads me to my op
Hey, me next!
Or it could be a US (or other) attempt to disrupt some terrorist
operation in progress which was designed to be coordinated over the
internet.
I think all this speculation, at best, just reveals the limitations of
peoples' imaginations.
Is there any "triangulation" of disruption
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Kee Hinckley wrote:
Which leads me to my operational question.
If you know that someone wants to cut your cables. What defense do you
have? Is there any practical way to monitor and protect an oceanic
cable? Are there ways to build them that would make them less
discove
Generally speaking, it is the undersea cable maintence folks who benefit since
they do the repairs. Alcatel, Global Marine, Tyco Submarine, to name a few. It
is common practice to use the same company that laid the cable, but it is not
an obligation.
Contracts are structured as an annual charg
Alex Pilosov wrote:
This conversation is quickly spinning into discussion of politics and
terrorism.
Reminder to all, please stick to the *operational* aspects of this thread.
-alex [NANOG MLC Chair]
Agreed.
In December of 2005, for reasons entirely personal, I read every paper
availabl
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
While reading the hacker tourist article someone posted from Wired many
years ago, it mentioned that as the FO cable comes closer to shore, more
extreme measures are taken to protect it, including fluidizing the sand
underneath the cable to cause the
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:56:39 -0500 (EST)
Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Caution: upon further research it appears there may be some language
> misscommunication in some of the reports; and some of the outages may
> be multiple reports of the same incidents.
>
>
>
> http://www.k
On Feb 4, 2008 9:33 AM, Rod Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's obviously the KGB, which wants the world to be dependent on Russia for
> oil
:-)
On a more serious note... who benefits from repairing of these lines?
-Jim P.
It's obviously the KGB, which wants the world to be dependent on Russia for oil
All Russians please report to their nearest FBI office for execution and
subsequent interrogation ...
Regards,
Roderick S. Beck
Director of European Sales
Hibernia Atlantic
1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Pari
The US Navy will deploy their killer ninja dolphins to bottlenose any
wrong doers :@)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kee Hinckley
Sent: 04 February 2008 17:08
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: [admin] Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle
I have not looked at a map. My guess is that most of these cables are linear -
point-to-point.
Obviously a more robust architecture is a ring. All TransAtlantic cables are
rings, but can you justify the economic cost of a ring architecture to serve
relatively small countries? Hmm ...
Despite
On 2/4/08, Kee Hinckley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> If you know that someone wants to cut your cables. What defense do
> you have? Is there any practical way to monitor and protect an
> oceanic cable? Are there ways to build them that would make them less
> discoverable? Some way to provid
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 08:25:44AM -0600, Frank Coluccio wrote:
>
> This will be my only post on this subject after biting my tongue for several
> days:)
>
> Some members will appreciate this item I came across earlier, I'm sure. As
> always, caveat emptor.
Another paranoid suggestion I have
On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Alex Pilosov wrote:
This conversation is quickly spinning into discussion of politics and
terrorism.
Reminder to all, please stick to the *operational* aspects of this
thread.
In all the fuss about terrorism, people may be forgetting that the
terrorists have g
Two days from Alexandria to the Gulf? Pull the other one. And you can't go
through the Suez Canal submerged.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Frank Coluccio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> This will be my only post on this subject after biting my tongue for
> several days:)
>
> Some members will a
This will be my only post on this subject after biting my tongue for several
days:)
Some members will appreciate this item I came across earlier, I'm sure. As
always, caveat emptor.
Where is the USS Jimmy Carter?
By Dave | February 3, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/3y7zgu
List members -- and lurki
gan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Sean Donelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, nanog@merit.edu
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2008 11:12:46 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)
>
>
>
> On 04/02/20
Cc: "Sean Donelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, nanog@merit.edu
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2008 11:12:46 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)
On 04/02/2008, at 4:38 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> I agree with Rod Beck as fa
On Feb 4, 2008 12:38 AM, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Todd Underwood wrote:
> > there has has been a lot of speculation that this is all some US
> > prelude to war with iran. while i don't claim to know much about
> > whether that makes any sense, i do know that
On 04/02/2008, at 4:38 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
I agree with Rod Beck as far as the speculations go. It could be
terror,
Well, no, it couldn't be. Nobody is being terrorized by this. How
can it possibly be a terrorist incident?
If it's deliberate, it might be described as an "informatio
Hi,
anyone with a source of unadulterated information from an operational
point of view about this cuts. A search on the Net is springing up a lot
of speculative whodunits.
Reason is, how will the affected regions get round this issue before the
repairs are done. First thought would be to set
Marshall:
I don't see any cables for Lebanon. I also don't see any cable for
Syria. I see "Falcon" coming down an estuary on an edge border for
Jordan. In proximity, Israel has some redundancy, although I don't
have the granularity to strip out the specific cables. It looks like a
"branch" to me,
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Todd Underwood wrote:
there has has been a lot of speculation that this is all some US
prelude to war with iran. while i don't claim to know much about
whether that makes any sense, i do know that if they're trying to
disconnect iran from the internet, they're doing a lousy
Caution: upon further research it appears there may be some language
misscommunication in some of the reports; and some of the outages may
be multiple reports of the same incidents.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theuae/2008/February/theuae_February115.xml§ion=theua
y'all,
there has has been a lot of speculation that this is all some US
prelude to war with iran. while i don't claim to know much about
whether that makes any sense, i do know that if they're trying to
disconnect iran from the internet, they're doing a lousy job:
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2
-
From: Sean Donelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:22 PM
To: Marcus H. Sachs
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i03tUdyj8wf2Xa9P4trWEjqAJdyQ
DOHA (AFP) . An undersea telecoms cab
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i03tUdyj8wf2Xa9P4trWEjqAJdyQ
DOHA (AFP) . An undersea telecoms cable linking Qatar to the United Arab
Emirates was damaged, disrupting services, telecommunications provider
Qtel said on Sunday, the latest such incident in less than a week.
The cable was d
Sean, do you have any URLs with additional info on the new cut? Questions
are being asked.
Marc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean
Donelan
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 6:52 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Fourth cable damaged in Mid
Dear Sean;
Do you know how Syria, Jordan and Lebanon get their connectivity ?
They have dropped off the map today for us. (Or maybe yesterday - I
wasn't able to pay any attention to this yesterday.)
Our Egyptian audience remains very low, while Iran still seems to be
unaffected.
Regard
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