RE: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox)

2007-07-23 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Running email abuse desks for about a decade now makes me > > tend to agree with you .. and completely unfiltered pipes to > > the internet for customer broadband are a pipe dream, most places. > > If ISPs were able to standardize consumer Inte

RE: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox)

2007-07-23 Thread michael.dillon
> Running email abuse desks for about a decade now makes me > tend to agree with you .. and completely unfiltered pipes to > the internet for customer broadband are a pipe dream, most places. If ISPs were able to standardize consumer Internet access services using a gateway box, then the necess

Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox)

2007-07-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 7/23/07, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But, like other attempts to respond to network abuse (e.g. various block lists), sometimes there are false positives and mistakes. When it happens, you tweak the filters and undue the wrong block. Demanding zero chance of error before ISPs d

Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox)

2007-07-23 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: What should be the official IETF recognized method for network operators to asynchronously communicate with users/hosts connect to the network for various reasons getting those machines cleaned up? Most large carriers that are also MAAWG membe

Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox)

2007-07-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 7/23/07, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What should be the official IETF recognized method for network operators to asynchronously communicate with users/hosts connect to the network for various reasons getting those machines cleaned up? Most large carriers that are also MAAWG m

Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox)

2007-07-23 Thread Leigh Porter
Hiya, Plenty of boxes can do redirection in the middle such as Redback, Ellacoya etc. We redirect customers who are infected to a web page when the first connect. Then every few hours they get re-directed again, just enough so it's a bit annoying. If they ignore this for a few weeks, they get re