Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-04 Thread alex
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cruniching the data that says Of 10 sites that I saw this IP address access and provide a clearing for the credit card transaction, 9 ended up being within 3 miles radius of . Lets put a tag on that I would be REALLY interested to know

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-04 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Say I have about 10 /16's reachable through firewalls in SJC, RDU, SYD, and AMS. No traceroutes or pings can make it past these firewalls, nor do the hostnames indicate any particular location. How exactly do you plan on mapping these to a zip code, when I

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-04 Thread alex
databases. If those users never buy stuff from Amazon.com, Amazon.com does not care where they are. But eh moment they do, somewhere someone is cruniching the data that says Of 10 sites that I saw this IP address access and provide a clearing for the credit card transaction, 9 ended up

RE: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Barry Raveendran Greene
Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? Physical geography and DNS do not match. Some of the most popular web sites in Indian under the .in domain are physically in the US and owned by US companies. Having a web

RE: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread alex
Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? Yes, at least three companies have databases of pretty much all /24s and above mapped up to a zip code. Alex

RE: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Ralph Doncaster
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? Yes, at least three companies have databases of pretty much all /24s and above mapped up to a zip code. So far I've been

RE: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread alex
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? Yes, at least three companies have databases of pretty much all /24s and above mapped up to a zip code. So far

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread John Payne
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:10:45AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? Yes, at least three companies have databases

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Ralph Doncaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's basically all Netscape Microsoft were doing when they had to restrict 128-bit SSL. They threw in the requirement to enter your address phone number, but they had no way of telling if you were entering your address, or the one you got

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Ralph Doncaster
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Thus spake Ralph Doncaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's basically all Netscape Microsoft were doing when they had to restrict 128-bit SSL. They threw in the requirement to enter your address phone number, but they had no way of telling if you were

RE: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread dgold
I believe Akamai offers an IP address to location database for sale. I'm unsure of the accuracy, but Akamai folks claim it to be quite high. YMMV. - Daniel Golding On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Barry Raveendran Greene wrote: Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for

RE: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Peter Salus
Ralph, You and alex exchanged: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? Yes, at least three companies have databases of pretty much all /24s and above mapped up

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Michael . Dillon
One of my clients is a large computer security software company. According to them, it's not just crypto export rules that are the concern, but also the ITAR countries (N. Korea, Lybia, Cuba, ...). As well they are concerned about liabilities in countries like France where it is illegal to

RE: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Alex! On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? Yes, at least three companies have databases of pretty much all /24s and above mapped up to a zip code. These DBs

RE: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread alex
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? Yes, at least three companies have databases of pretty much all /24s and above mapped up to a zip code. These DBs

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread alex
Wrong answer. Just because free public dbs dont have that info does not mean that it does not exist. Say I have about 10 /16's reachable through firewalls in SJC, RDU, SYD, and AMS. No traceroutes or pings can make it past these firewalls, nor do the hostnames indicate any

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread dre
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 04:22:30PM -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Say I have about 10 /16's reachable through firewalls in SJC, RDU, SYD, and AMS. No traceroutes or pings can make it past these firewalls, nor do the hostnames indicate any particular location. How exactly do you plan on

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread dre
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 11:21:04PM -0400, Ralph Doncaster wrote: Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? http://www.nicolas-guillard.com/cybergeography-fr/mapping.html -dre

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Peter Salus
Andre, I fail to see where a pointer to the French version of Dodge's UCL-based cybergeography pages responds to Ralph's queries. Peter

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Bradley Dunn
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Gary E. Miller wrote: I would be REALLY interested to know how you measure mileage with IP. Latency triangulation. Bradley

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Bradley! On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Bradley Dunn wrote: I would be REALLY interested to know how you measure mileage with IP. Latency triangulation. Oh really? So you can figure out how plugged the pipe is, how backed up the router is, and then measure the speed of light? Triangulate this:

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-02 Thread John Payne
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 11:21:04PM -0400, Ralph Doncaster wrote: Is there a more accurate method to determine the country of origin for an IP than the methods I've described above? Several companies offer such services. I'd be happy to give some pointers offlist.

Re: IPv4 country of origin

2002-10-02 Thread Joe Abley
On Wednesday, Oct 2, 2002, at 23:21 Canada/Eastern, Ralph Doncaster wrote: I would like to restrict access from certain countries to content on my network (for security and legal reasons). So far the best algorithm I've been able to come up with is a combination of reverse DNS and