RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-27 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Nico Schottelius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I am more or less new to nanog (reading it about half a year), so please correct me, if I do something wrong. Jeroen Massar [Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 02:07:27PM +0100]: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread leo vegoda
Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Not yet indeed, unfortunatly. The RIR prefixes under ip6.int, at least for RIPE, seem to exist though if they don't take it up with them. RIPE does require 2 mails to marvin, one for ip6.int and one for ip6.arpa. Just to clarify, two domain objects

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Ronald van der Pol
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 00:36:19 +, Paul Vixie wrote: or just put http://www.isc.org/pubs/tn/?tn=isc-tn-2002-1.txt into effect. I am confused. Are DNAMEs deprecated or not (RFC3363, section 4)? rvdp

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 00:36:19 +, Paul Vixie wrote: or just put http://www.isc.org/pubs/tn/?tn=isc-tn-2002-1.txt into effect. I am confused. Are DNAMEs deprecated or not (RFC3363, section 4)? rvdp RFC 3363 does NOT say that DNAME

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Pekka Savola
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Mark Andrews wrote: RFC 3363 does NOT say that DNAME is deprecated. All it says is that since A6 was moving the exprimental using DNAME to support renumbering is deprecated. Which part of: Therefore, in moving RFC 2874 to

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Edward Lewis
Having been present at the meeting that gave rise to the document (at the IETF meetings held in London, August 2001), I'd say that the material quoted in the document is at fault. (There was quite a lot of controversy at the meeting, perhaps my recollection isn't shared with all others. But

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Paul Vixie
or just put http://www.isc.org/pubs/tn/?tn=isc-tn-2002-1.txt into effect. I am confused. Are DNAMEs deprecated or not (RFC3363, section 4)? A6 and bitstring labels are deprecated. DNAME remains in full force.

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
or just put http://www.isc.org/pubs/tn/?tn=isc-tn-2002-1.txt into effect. I am confused. Are DNAMEs deprecated or not (RFC3363, section 4)? A6 and bitstring labels are deprecated. DNAME remains in full force. last i heard from you, you said that DNAME would be evaluated by

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Paul Vixie
... http://www.isc.org/pubs/tn/?tn=isc-tn-2002-1.txt ... last i heard from you, you said that DNAME would be evaluated by recursive resolver and will not be visible to end client... what changed? according to this experiment: +--- | ;; QUESTION SECTION: |

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Lewis) writes: ... DNAME was kind of the third record in. The change in it's status pertained to the role it played in supporting bit sting labels - which is why the reverse tree is mentioned in the deprecation. Looking at the document now, the document ought to

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Mark . Andrews
Having been present at the meeting that gave rise to the document (at the IETF meetings held in London, August 2001), I'd say that the material quoted in the document is at fault. (There was quite a lot of controversy at the meeting, perhaps my recollection isn't shared with all

RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Paul Vixie wrote: SNIP the type is defined and at least one authority server implementation will synthesize protocol-compliant CNAME RRs in the presence of DNAMEs, and so the approach documented at www.isc.org/pubs/tn/ will universally work OK. In that

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
... http://www.isc.org/pubs/tn/?tn=isc-tn-2002-1.txt ... last i heard from you, you said that DNAME would be evaluated by recursive resolver and will not be visible to end client... what changed? according to this experiment: +--- | ;; QUESTION SECTION: |

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Paul Vixie
[itojun] i understand some implementation (BIND 9.3?) does this, i think it's all bind9, but certainly all bind 9.2 and later. but is the behavior documented somewhere in the set of RFCs? yes. marka just quoted all of that. for instance, does djbdns do it? does MS DNS server do it?

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread Todd Vierling
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: : as a practical matter, it is impossible to ensure that all name servers : and resolvers understand DNAME. but it is very possible to ensure that : a given zone, such as 8.f.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa in ISC's case, is only : served by authority servers who

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-11 Thread bill
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: : as a practical matter, it is impossible to ensure that all name servers : and resolvers understand DNAME. but it is very possible to ensure that : a given zone, such as 8.f.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa in ISC's case, is only : served by authority

RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: if i try to log into my machines back in tokyo by IPv6 SSH, it takes very long time. i guess i found the reason - (possible) lame delegation of blah.ip6.int. ip6.arpa. query returns instantly. how

RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
if i try to log into my machines back in tokyo by IPv6 SSH, it takes very long time. i guess i found the reason - (possible) lame delegation of blah.ip6.int. ip6.arpa. query returns instantly. how could we fix it? By fixing the software as ip6.int was deprecated 2

RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
if i try to log into my machines back in tokyo by IPv6 SSH, it takes very long time. i guess i found the reason - (possible) lame delegation of blah.ip6.int. ip6.arpa. query returns instantly. how could we fix it? By fixing the software as ip6.int was deprecated 2 years+++

RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: if i try to log into my machines back in tokyo by IPv6 SSH, it takes very long time. i guess i found the reason - (possible) lame delegation of blah.ip6.int. ip6.arpa. query returns

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread bill
if i try to log into my machines back in tokyo by IPv6 SSH, it takes very long time. i guess i found the reason - (possible) lame delegation of blah.ip6.int. ip6.arpa. query returns instantly. how could we fix it? the ip6.int entry times out, no servers

RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Randy Bush
if i try to log into my machines back in tokyo by IPv6 SSH, it takes very long time. i guess i found the reason - (possible) lame delegation of blah.ip6.int. ip6.arpa. query returns instantly. how could we fix it? By fixing the software as ip6.int was deprecated 2 years+++ ago as you

RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Randy Bush wrote: if i try to log into my machines back in tokyo by IPv6 SSH, it takes very long time. i guess i found the reason - (possible) lame delegation of blah.ip6.int. ip6.arpa. query returns instantly. how could we fix it? By fixing the

RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Mark Andrews wrote: The correct fix to this will be to just stop making IP6.INT queries. The best think that could be done is for the PTB to install IP6.INT. DNAME IP6.ARPA. *now*. This will allow the legacy resolvers to

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Mark Andrews wrote: The correct fix to this will be to just stop making IP6.INT queries. The best think that could be done is for the PTB to install IP6.INT. DNAME IP6.ARPA. *now*. This will

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Paul Vixie
Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: if i try to log into my machines back in tokyo by IPv6 SSH, it takes very long time. i guess i found the reason - (possible) lame delegation of blah.ip6.int. ip6.arpa. query returns instantly. how could we fix it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeroen Massar) writes:

Re: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-10 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: if i try to log into my machines back in tokyo by IPv6 SSH, it takes very long time. i guess i found the reason - (possible) lame delegation of blah.ip6.int. ip6.arpa. query returns instantly. how could we fix it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeroen Massar)