RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread Sean Donelan
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Andy Dills wrote: > This is all ignoring the considerable amount of dead space in 128/2. Does > anybody keep statistics about what percentage of useable space is > announced? See the CAIDA web site (www.caida.org). It is chock full of interesting statistics about the Interne

RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread Andy Dills
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I used the list posted at iana and created the list in the what I think > is better for use by own whois server. Its likely to be of use to others. > > Also based on suggestion by Sean Donelan column has been added if > /8 block is or should be rou

RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread william
I used the list posted at iana and created the list in the what I think is better for use by own whois server. Its likely to be of use to others. Also based on suggestion by Sean Donelan column has been added if /8 block is or should be routable or not (my own opinion). The list is available at

RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread Sean Donelan
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > List the 128-191/8 allocations first. Getting this information from the > > RIR's has been tedious. > Unless IANA was responsible for those initial allocations, it should not > be IANA's task to make this list. And if IANA makes such a list I think

RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread william
n/isp/security/ > > The big question was a consensus on how to handle a template recommendation > for the old B space and C. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > John Crain > > Sent: Wednesday, September

RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread Barry Raveendran Greene
r'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question.. > > > > > List the 128-191/8 allocations first. Getting this information from the > RIR's has been tedious. After that, details on each /8 for all 256 lines > would be useful. It is a steppi

RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread Barry Raveendran Greene
the old B space and C. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > John Crain > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:04 AM > To: 'Jeffrey Meltzer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a questio

RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread william
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RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread william
-- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > > Behalf Of Jeffrey Meltzer > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:54 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question.. > > > > > > > &g

Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:08:00 -0400 David Charlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John M. Brown wrote: > > > > In the last 72 hours I've seen over 3GB of data hit a network > > I play with with source IP's of IANA-RESERVED space. > > Just out of curiosity, do you know that these are bogus sourc

Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread John M. Brown
They are not bogus, hence the sub-deligation, and hence a good reason to have a more detailed source of information. I would suspect that this block should be "chopped" a bit to reflect the IANA/ICANN usage. This block was first routed on the internet via AS 226 around late summer early fall 1

Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread John M. Brown
We need to be careful, at the RIR level, that data being published doesn't get mucked up. If a RIR publishes a netblock as "unallocated" and that happens to knock people off the net, then the RIR's need to be willing to solve that problem 7x24x365. Having the IANA, or other entity publishing a

Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread David Charlap
John M. Brown wrote: > > In the last 72 hours I've seen over 3GB of data hit a network > I play with with source IP's of IANA-RESERVED space. Just out of curiosity, do you know that these are bogus source addresses? Some of the IANA-RESERVED block is actually valid and is used by IANA's comp

Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread Andrei Robachevsky
Daniel, Daniel Karrenberg wrote: > Speaking for myself too: [...] > > I know that the RIRs have efforts underway to publish such authoritative lists. > I do not know the exact status of this work. But I fully agree with your requirement > for a *single* *authoritative* list. > Yes, we at the

Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
Speaking for myself too: I have been wanting an *authoritative* *single* listing of unallocated address space for at least 6 years. Note that this is at a finer granularity than the IANA allocations list and it would have much more frequent changes than the IANA list as address space is allocate

RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-04 Thread John Crain
age- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Jeffrey Meltzer > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question.. > > > > Wouldn't the easiest (at lea

Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

2002-09-03 Thread Jeffrey Meltzer
Wouldn't the easiest (at least short term) thing be for IANA (or someone else authoritative-like) to put up a text file (not that I'm really sure how many blocks this entails) available via http or ftp for people to periodically wget, etc. Surely IANA, ARIN, or someone else has some type of u