Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center

2002-04-27 Thread Ukyo Kuonji
>From: Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > C) How deep do you want it? ATT put their #5 TCC cable down 4'; > > no easy task. {But then, we paid for it...}. Will that help > > when a locomotive lands on it? If it doesn't... it's much harder > > to fix. > >The average locomotive is something above

Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center

2002-04-26 Thread blitz
You can also add to that: If the original derailment didn't cut the cable, the subsequent construction surely would. The cable buried is an afterthought, rail repair crews will undoubtedly bulldoze things flat and straight, bring in fill and push the debris to one side, and get the ballast and

Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center

2002-04-26 Thread David Lesher
Unnamed Administration sources reported that Randy Neals said: > > > Most recent railway builds have been multi conduit projects with up to 12 x > 1.5 inch HDPE conduits plowed in by rail mounted cable plow. Your correct > that steel conduit is used at bridge crossing or other exposed locations

RE: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center

2002-04-26 Thread Randy Neals
>Conduit? What's THAT ;-? Only exposed (bridge crossing, etc) >parts are in conduit. Conduit is typically used along the entire length of most railway builds I have seen. Most recent railway builds have been multi conduit projects with up to 12 x 1.5 inch HDPE conduits plowed in by rail mount

Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center

2002-04-26 Thread herb
Chris Kilbourn wrote: > > > In the past few years on NANOG, I've noticed a strong correlation between > train derailments and network outages. (Not to discount the backhoe > correlation in any way of course...) > > The question I have is this: > > If fiber runs are trenched into the railbed,

Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center

2002-04-26 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 08:42:21PM -0400, David Lesher wrote: > > C) How deep do you want it? ATT put their #5 TCC cable down 4'; > no easy task. {But then, we paid for it...}. Will that help > when a locomotive lands on it? If it doesn't... it's much harder > to fix. The average locomotive is

Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center

2002-04-26 Thread David Lesher
Unnamed Administration sources reported that Chris Kilbourn said: > > > In the past few years on NANOG, I've noticed a strong correlation between > train derailments and network outages. (Not to discount the backhoe > correlation in any way of course...) > > The question I have is this: > > I

Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center

2002-04-26 Thread Chris Kilbourn
In the past few years on NANOG, I've noticed a strong correlation between train derailments and network outages. (Not to discount the backhoe correlation in any way of course...) The question I have is this: If fiber runs are trenched into the railbed, and we know that trains go off of the trac