On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:10:49AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
[snip]
This is because your mom doesn't want to have to hire a technical
consultant to manage her IT infrastructure when all she
wants to do is
get email pictures of her grandkids.
Then yer mom should get a Mac.
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:26:05 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is because your mom doesn't want to have to hire a
technical consultant to manage her IT infrastructure when all
she wants to do is get email pictures of her grandkids.
Problem:
1. Even so-called easy systems are
On Jan 29, 2004, at 9:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Microsoft software is inherently less safe than Linux/*BSD software.
This is because Microsoft has favored usability over security.
This is because the market has responded better to that tradeoff.
This is because your mom doesn't want to
Microsoft software is inherently less safe than Linux/*BSD software.
This is because Microsoft has favored usability over security.
This is because the market has responded better to that tradeoff.
This is because your mom doesn't want to have to hire a technical
consultant to manage her IT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Lixfeld
Sent: January 29, 2004 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Vivien M.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS is vulnerable
This is because your mom doesn't want to have to hire
While acknowledging that I am falling for a troll does not excuse the act
itself, I would like to float an idea I think is useful.
If you look at security as control, then you can measure it as the ratio of
controls to features. That is, for N in/egress points there are X active policy
On Jan 29, 2004, at 11:10 AM, Vivien M. wrote:
Then yer mom should get a Mac.
And if she's like my mom, she'll be in the aisle in the computer store
(well, the big box electronics store, more realistically) and be like
Why
should I pay $2000 for this one when I can get 'a computer' for $500?
by the community.
Your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO
Broadband Laboratories
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS is vulnerable
Actually, since I got my first Mac last year, I've been barking up and
down about how amazing it is. I told everyone I sold every PC I ever
owned because I could do it all on my powerbook. They are all jealous.
I had XP for my email, visio and word, *nix for my geek router perl
stuff,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Lixfeld
Sent: January 29, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Vivien M.
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS is vulnerable
Agreed. That's where you educate your mom on why Macs are godly
On Jan 29, 2004, at 12:04 PM, Martin Hepworth wrote:
Actually, since I got my first Mac last year, I've been barking up
and down about how amazing it is. I told everyone I sold every PC I
ever owned because I could do it all on my powerbook. They are all
jealous. I had XP for my email,
Jason Lixfeld wrote:
When we got to where we were going, my mom was complaining
that her digital camera flash was full and she didn't have
another one. I told her that I could download the pictures
to my powerbook and email them to her later. As I was
connecting the camera, she asked Well,
This MS v Unix debate is a very interesting discussion.
To some of you. To others of us, it is a long-dead horse.
However, I'd like to take a moment to inject my observations.
I'd like the NANOG list to be restricted to Network Operations issues, or at
the very least, Network Operations plus
When the last big MS virus/worm caused it's major shitstorm,
my mom asked me if I ever get infected with viruses. I said
no, I run a Mac. They are immune to these viruses.
Complete BS. There are Mac viruses allright, and the reason these worms
target the Windows platform is simply because
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From: Remko Lodder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 29, 2004 12:43 PM
To: Vivien M.; 'Jason Lixfeld'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Nanog] RE: MS is vulnerable
It's better to educate your mum how she keeps windows secure
Martin Hepworth wrote:
Got a colleague who swapped hi twin 1GHZ PC for a 17
powerbook to do his video editing side business. Guess
wot - the powerbook works much much better than his
w2k based system!!
Hmmm maybe you can show me where the Macintosh version for Adobe
Premiere Pro is? (Adobe
Jonathan Nichols wrote:
There hasn't been one single Mac virus in several years
That's probably why there's a product called Norton Anti-virus for Mac?
http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_mac/index.html
Michel.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Nichols
Sent: January 29, 2004 12:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS is vulnerable
The reason there aren't any Mac viruses most certainly is
*not* because
On Jan 29, 2004, at 12:31 PM, Michel Py wrote:
If the Powershot was designed as a Mac-only camera, it's Canon's
stupidity. I never used one, but when I plug my Sony cybershot to any
PC
it comes up right away without any software.
I should withdraw this comment. After I sent the message, I
Michel Py wrote:
Jonathan Nichols wrote:
There hasn't been one single Mac virus in several years
That's probably why there's a product called Norton Anti-virus for Mac?
http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_mac/index.html
Michel.
Of course. Something needs to try and stop the flood of viruses
Your analogies suck for two reasons:
1: take a look at the huge problems apple is having with quality
control and returns on the ibooks. They've finally started admitting
there's a problem (after months and months of consumer outrage)
http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/
2: VW build
Vivien M. wrote:
And when she asks why it can't be as simple as buying a microwave or a
washing machine, what do I do?
What does she do when she is buying a microve or a washing machine?
On Jan 29, 2004, at 1:29 PM, just me wrote:
Your analogies suck for two reasons:
1: take a look at the huge problems apple is having with quality
control and returns on the ibooks. They've finally started admitting
there's a problem (after months and months of consumer outrage)
On 1/29/04 1:04 PM, Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's probably why there's a product called Norton Anti-virus for Mac?
http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_mac/index.html
Yep, and for the same type of people that buy rust protection on their new
car.
--
Robert Blayzor, BOFH
INOC, LLC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Sent: January 29, 2004 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS is vulnerable
Vivien M. wrote:
And when she asks why it can't be as simple as buying
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