RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-04-02 Thread Robert Cannon
If you want to splinter off to lists that already exist and actually have a number of NANOG participants, can I recommend Cybertelecom-l : federal initiatives that impact the Internet with an emphasis on the FCC www.cybertelecom.org Cyberia-l : general rabble about Internet law with lots of

RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-31 Thread todd glassey
] Behalf Of Krzysztof Adamski Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 6:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True) You are two days to early. K On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, todd glassey wrote: Rafi I think that we possibly may need three subgroups. But maybe

RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-31 Thread Kris Foster
I think that we possibly may need three subgroups. But maybe not all at once. why don't we just get it over with and break apart/dilute into the usual suspect: social, technological, legal, economic, political. [sarcasm] Kris

Re: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-31 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
In the immortal words of Jack Bates ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Whats wrong with the nanog-offtopic list ? The legal issues are technical on-topic and nanog related. However, there are some that want to know what's going on in the legal system, and others that don't. At the same time, those

RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-31 Thread todd glassey
List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True) I think that we possibly may need three subgroups. But maybe not all at once. why don't we just get it over with and break apart/dilute into the usual suspect: social, technological, legal, economic, political. [sarcasm] Kris

RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-31 Thread todd glassey
Sadowsky; Jared Mauch; Jack Bates; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True) On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, todd glassey wrote: And then it hit me - NANOG has the opportunity to create a consortium of networking providers really do run the Internet here in North

RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-30 Thread todd glassey
That's why we need separate lists for them. This is a real issue though and its important to the global operations of the bigger picture Internet - besides this is ***the*** golden opportunity for you ISP's to hit your customers for more money since you now have serious legal issues constraining

Re: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-30 Thread Jared Mauch
Hello, Someone write up a list charter for a new list and let me know. I can host such a list. - Jared On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 11:04:07AM -0800, todd glassey wrote: That's why we need separate lists for them. This is a real issue though and its important

Re: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-30 Thread Rafi Sadowsky
Hi guys, Whats wrong with the nanog-offtopic list ? -- Rafi ## On 2003-03-30 14:07 -0500 Jared Mauch typed: JM JM JM Hello, JM JM Someone write up a list charter for a new list and let me know. JM JM I can host such a list. JM JM - Jared JM JM On Sun, Mar

Re: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-30 Thread Jack Bates
Rafi Sadowsky wrote: Whats wrong with the nanog-offtopic list ? The legal issues are technical on-topic and nanog related. However, there are some that want to know what's going on in the legal system, and others that don't. At the same time, those wanting to keep track of legal issues may

RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-30 Thread McBurnett, Jim
.. Jim -Original Message- From: Jack Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:41 PM To: Rafi Sadowsky Cc: Jared Mauch; todd glassey; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True) Rafi Sadowsky wrote: Whats wrong

RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True) (why not nanog-legal ?)

2003-03-30 Thread McBurnett, Jim
, IMHO Jim -Original Message- From: William Devine, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 5:15 PM To: McBurnett, Jim; 'Jack Bates'; 'Rafi Sadowsky' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True) (why not nanog-legal

Re: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True) (why notnanog-legal ?)

2003-03-30 Thread Mark Rogaski
--6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An entity claiming to be McBurnett, Jim ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: :=20 : I am not for or against either.. : just putting thoughts out there.. : NANOG-Legal

RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-30 Thread todd glassey
Sadowsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:36 AM To: Jared Mauch Cc: todd glassey; Jack Bates; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True) Hi guys, Whats wrong with the nanog-offtopic list ? -- Rafi ## On 2003-03-30 14

RE: NANOG Splinter List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True)

2003-03-30 Thread Krzysztof Adamski
List (Was: State Super-DMCA Too True) Hi guys, Whats wrong with the nanog-offtopic list ? -- Rafi ## On 2003-03-30 14:07 -0500 Jared Mauch typed: JM JM JM Hello, JM JM Someone write up a list charter for a new list and let me know. JM JM I can host