On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 15:39, Krzysztof Adamski wrote:
> Based on this you can see that re-encoding is needed when you change the
> PIN number, most ATM will do that re-encoding. So unless things have
> changed in the last 4 years since I worked with this, you can not change
> your PIN over the ph
> Before you jump to the conclusion that you could just steal the black
> box from the ATM and have access, but if you till it, it forgets all the
> keys. Also during normal operation two separate people have to enter
> two parts of the key. This way no single bank employee has access to
> both
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> > Since nobody has given the correct information abou
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> Since nobody has given the correct information about the PIN
> on the card I will give a very brief descripti
Since nobody has given the correct information about the PIN on the card I
will give a very brief description.
There are two types of PIN, natural and customer selected.
The natural PIN is computed from the number on the card. The computation
involves one way crypto keys. I don't remember the alg
Halleluljah. A voice of knowledge as opposed to conjecture. Different
bank ATMs operate differently. There are online and offline modes.
The PIN may or may not be recorded on the card. Some of these
differences are due to the fact that not all financial institutions
were connected to interbank ne
Al Rowland wrote:
The PIN is on your card ...
Not for any card I've ever owned. I've changed my PIN several times
over the years, and the bank has never re-encoded my card or sent me a
new card as a result of doing so.
Maybe some banks do store the PIN on the card, but I'm certain that it'
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:35:37AM -0800, Al Rowland wrote:
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> The PIN is on your card, likely encrypted,
We're off-topic now, so I won't go into detail, but the PIN is
sometimes on the card and sometimes not. There are different ways of
doing it. (If the sampling of cards in my wallet is re
