Re: Over three million computers 0wned?

2003-06-30 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Sheer, utter, mind-numbing nonsense. If it weren't for the tremendous amount of software out there that makes it EASY to take over machines (and I include every single default install of every single OS that enables anything more than port 22), if it

Re: Over three million computers 0wned?

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Thomas
Hey, Sean. ] Trustcorps claims it has scientific and anecdotal resaerch supporting its ] conclusion that over three million computers are owned by malicious ] groups. Interesting. ] On the other hand, Information Risk Management questioned how any one ] person could own hundreds of computers

RE: Over three million computers 0wned?

2003-06-28 Thread Marc
It would be interesting to know if the FBI or any other group can characterize how many computers are 0wn3d per minute. Then, of those computers, how many remain 0wn3d indefinitely? Marc Trustcorps claims it has scientific and anecdotal resaerch supporting its conclusion that over three

Re: Over three million computers 0wned?

2003-06-28 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
Sean Donelan wrote: http://www.vnunet.com/News/1141901 Trustcorps claims it has scientific and anecdotal resaerch supporting its conclusion that over three million computers are owned by malicious groups. Well, it isn't as if that article really had many of the details that were

Re: Over three million computers 0wned?

2003-06-28 Thread Jamie Reid
Even if 3mil machines are actively and currently compromised, of all reachable hosts on the Internet, it would not be unreasonable to assume that %80 or more are vulnerable to remote compromise in some way. That number is speculative, but most estimates from consutling firms are much higher.

Re: Over three million computers 0wned?

2003-06-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:04:25 PDT, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I include every single default install of every single OS that enables anything more than port 22), Speaking of which, a heads-up... Jay Dyson was reporting on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list that he's seeing an