Are you going to sue him like you threatened to sue us in 2001 for
blacklisting you? :D
-Drew
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dean Anderson
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:01 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: SMTP AUTH
Using SORBS
> C'mon folks... let's get back to the usual complaining about the size of
> the global routing table :)
Wow! A short message that only quotes the essential
points being responded to and doesn't leave pages of
irrelevant quotes following the poster's own words!
Amazing!
On Wed, 4 May 2005, Matthew Sullivan wrote:
> No it's because you're off topic. Whether justified or not SORBS
> complaints and SORBS bashing are not on-topic for NANOG.
This is not particularly about SORBS bashing. Its about the need for SMTP
AUTH, whether SMTP AUTH stops spam, and who abuses
Dean Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Matthew Sullivan wrote:
Off topic again Dean...? Can't you keep on topic and keep the personal
attacks out of the list...?
Funny how its only off topic when its about your abuse.
No it's because you're off topic. Whether justified or not SORBS
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 02:34:22PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2 May 2005, David Lesher wrote:
>
> > Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
> > >
> > > Better yet, try to name 16 mail clients people _actually use_ which
> > > DON'T, other than MUA-only programs
On Mon, 2 May 2005, David Lesher wrote:
> Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
> >
> > Better yet, try to name 16 mail clients people _actually use_ which
> > DON'T, other than MUA-only programs like mailx and mutt with no SMTP
> > support at all. When I worked at a medium
At 01:53 PM 5/3/2005, you wrote:
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All this argument about a guy whose business website is a GIF, with 4 links
above it, 2 of which point to a machine that's refusin
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Matthew Sullivan wrote:
> Off topic again Dean...? Can't you keep on topic and keep the personal
> attacks out of the list...?
Funny how its only off topic when its about your abuse.
> Dean Anderson wrote:
>
> >ignored. Then, in the fall of 2003, when the major open rela
On Sun, 1 May 2005, Will Yardley wrote:
> Is it time to break out the "Please do not feed the trolls" sign?
>
> Feeding 'em anyway... but *plonk* for Mr. Anderson. For those who are
> masochists, read on.
>
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:50:29PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote:
>
> > But only 16 emai
Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are plenty of non-Windows mailers which support SMTP auth - the
> list below includes quite a few Mac OS, cross platform, and UNIX / Linux
> clients. Not only that, but on a *nix system, it's possible to configure
> the MTA as an authenticated SMTP
>> does a better job. The following does very nicely for me, for the
>> record :-)
>>
>>> # Valley of the Kooks
>>>
>>> :0
>>> * ^(From|To|Cc):.*baptista@(pccf\.net|dot-god\.com)
>>> /dev/null
>>>
>>> :0
>>> * ^(From|To|Cc):[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> /dev/null
>>>
>>> :0
>>> *
>>> ^(From|To|Cc):.*(jim
i quoted somebody as saying:
> >> :0
> >> * ^From:.*<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> /dev/null
and was told by an actual procmail user the following:
> That regex needs some work (the left-angle bracket excludes messages sent
> with a bare address), and:
>
> > it does no good for me to filter out the
on Mon, May 02, 2005 at 01:55:19PM +, Paul Vixie wrote:
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> in this interminable thread from hell, someone finally said the magic words:
>
> > Thankfully, there's always procmail.
>
> and helpfully gave a specific recipe:
Yeah, but not the one you really need. Thankfully, there's always mo
On 5/2/05, David Lesher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
> > http://palmsource.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&prodid=44646
> >
> > Look at that, a PalmOS app that does exactly what you're looking for.
> > Doesn't seem
uot; >
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Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
>
> http://palmsource.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&prodid=44646
>
> Look at that, a PalmOS app that does exactly what you're looking for.
> Doesn't seem to have been too difficult to find.
I looked at Snappe
On Mon, 2 May 2005, David Lesher wrote:
Well, if someone knows a program for the Treo 6xx that does
SMTP-Auth w/APOPI'm all ears... (& over SSL would be a big
plus...)
Let's see here... Google for "palm smtp auth"... first link... scroll
down a bit...
http://palmsource.palmgear.com/index.c
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
>
>
> Better yet, try to name 16 mail clients people _actually use_ which
> DON'T, other than MUA-only programs like mailx and mutt with no SMTP
> support at all. When I worked at a mediumish sized hosting company with
> probably well o
Off topic again Dean...? Can't you keep on topic and keep the personal
attacks out of the list...?
Dean Anderson wrote:
ignored. Then, in the fall of 2003, when the major open relay blacklists
shutdown, open relay abuse JUST DROPPED OFF TO NOTHING. And when SORBS
started scanning, abuse picked
Is it time to break out the "Please do not feed the trolls" sign?
Feeding 'em anyway... but *plonk* for Mr. Anderson. For those who are
masochists, read on.
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:50:29PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote:
> But only 16 email clients (counting Netscape, Mozilla, and Firefox
> sepa
Yes it is kindof amazing how well it works..
Unlike others on this list I have never claimed to have any credibility.
I am just a small time op.
Dean Anderson wrote:
Using SORBS? just how much credibility do you want to lose?
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:30
> Just be glad no one has set up a net kook DNSBL yet.
won't work. the trogs post to mailing lists. procmail is
my friend and could be yours. but i can't figure out why
otherwise seemingly sane folk keep replying to known kooks.
randy
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 12:11:35AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 12:01:16AM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote:
> >
> > Using SORBS? just how much credibility do you want to lose?
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:30:00 -0400
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 12:01:16AM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote:
>
> Using SORBS? just how much credibility do you want to lose?
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:30:00 -0400
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:
Using SORBS? just how much credibility do you want to lose?
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:30:00 -0400
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
The original message was received at
On Sun, 01 May 2005 23:37:53 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> these either have 'Antique' tags on them or are painted National School Bus
> Chrome (National Bureau of Standards Color #1305)...)
Figures. Another reference says it's Standard 595a, Color 13432.. ;)
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 22:50:29 EDT, Dean Anderson said:
> But only 16 email clients (counting Netscape, Mozilla, and Firefox
> separately), support SMTP AUTH. But there are more than 1000 different
> email client programs. If you go to Microcenter, you can buy several
> email client programs for wi
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Edward B. Dreger wrote:
> DA> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 21:09:50 -0400 (EDT)
> DA> From: Dean Anderson
>
> DA> > http://www.merit.edu/mail/archives/nanog/199-11/msg00263.html
> DA> > http://www.merit.edu/mail/archives/nanog/199-11/msg00289.html
> DA>
> DA> Neither of these links
This seems like a new thread, so I changed the title.
inline
On Sun, 1 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 01 May 2005 21:09:50 EDT, Dean Anderson said:
> > criticisms (made presumably in 1999), were correct. In 2005, SMTP AUTH is
> > basically dead. There hasn't been a new mail client
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