Re: IPv6 vs IPv4 (Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?)

2003-09-03 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On dinsdag, sep 2, 2003, at 23:18 Europe/Amsterdam, Nenad Pudar wrote: Again my point is that your site (or any other that use the same dns for ipv4 and 6) may be "blackholed" by ipv6 (it is not the question primary about the quality ipv6 connction it is the fact that your ipv4 connection which

RE: IPv6 vs IPv4 (Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?)

2003-09-02 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Jared Mauch wrote: > (btw, for those of you who think that IPv6 isn't in use, you may now > safely ignore this thread). Then I will safely respond to it in that case ;) > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 04:34:18PM -0400, Nenad Pudar wrote: > > My enviroment is far to

Re: IPv6 vs IPv4 (Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?)

2003-09-02 Thread Jack Bates
Nenad Pudar wrote: Again my point is that your site (or any other that use the same dns for ipv4 and 6) may be "blackholed" by ipv6 (it is not the question primary about the quality ipv6 connction it is the fact that your ipv4 connection which may be excelant is blackholed with your ipv6 connec

Re: IPv6 vs IPv4 (Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?)

2003-09-02 Thread Nenad Pudar
I do not send e-maol to complain about my connection to puck.nether.net ,neither I claim I have a excelent ipv6 connection ,what triggerd my-e-mail was the someone complining to not be able to reach your site. I have more than few ways to making it reachable . My e-mail was more to rise the gene

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 16:34:18 -0400 > From: Nenad Pudar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > My enviroment is far to be broken my friend. > This is not question about me or my environoment this question about > your site ,I can always mange to get such a sites if I want but I

IPv6 vs IPv4 (Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?)

2003-09-02 Thread Jared Mauch
(btw, for those of you who think that IPv6 isn't in use, you may now safely ignore this thread). On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 04:34:18PM -0400, Nenad Pudar wrote: > My enviroment is far to be broken my friend. > This is not question about me or my environoment this question about > your site ,I can a

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Petri Helenius
Nenad Pudar wrote: My enviroment is far to be broken my friend. This is not question about me or my environoment this question about your site ,I can always mange to get such a sites if I want but I am not sure that some other people are even awre what the problem is. I think that still majority

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Nenad Pudar
My enviroment is far to be broken my friend. This is not question about me or my environoment this question about your site ,I can always mange to get such a sites if I want but I am not sure that some other people are even awre what the problem is. I think that still majority of ipv6 connections

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Nenad Pudar wrote: > OK > The point is that ipv6 connection is not good enough to be used. Wrong the v6 connection for your host isn't good enough to use. It works fine from here... > And for the sites that have the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 ipv6 in a way > "blackhole" ip

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:47:14PM +0300, Petri Helenius wrote: > Nenad Pudar wrote: > > >OK > >The point is that ipv6 connection is not good enough to be used. > >And for the sites that have the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 ipv6 in a > >way "blackhole" ipv4 connection. > >In this case puck.nether

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Petri Helenius
Nenad Pudar wrote: OK The point is that ipv6 connection is not good enough to be used. And for the sites that have the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 ipv6 in a way "blackhole" ipv4 connection. In this case puck.nether.net is timinig out from time to time (going over ipv6) instead of going over ipv4

IPv4/IPv6 issues (was Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?)

2003-09-02 Thread Bill Owens
At 11:56 -0700 9/2/03, Joel Jaeggli wrote: On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Nenad Pudar wrote: Jared Ido not understand what you consider as problem here (the problem is not the latency which is more or less normal thing for ipv6 at this time) "The problem" also showing on you box is that dns6 is resolved

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Nenad Pudar
OK The point is that ipv6 connection is not good enough to be used. And for the sites that have the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 ipv6 in a way "blackhole" ipv4 connection. In this case puck.nether.net is timinig out from time to time (going over ipv6) instead of going over ipv4 network. Joel Jaegg

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Nenad Pudar wrote: > Jared > > Ido not understand what you consider as problem here (the problem is not > the latency which is more or less normal thing for ipv6 at this time) > "The problem" also showing on you box is that dns6 is resolved first > forcing the connection to

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Petri Helenius
Nenad Pudar wrote: Jared Ido not understand what you consider as problem here (the problem is not the latency which is more or less normal thing for ipv6 at this time) "The problem" also showing on you box is that dns6 is resolved first forcing the connection to be ipv6 which is not something th

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Nenad Pudar
Jared Ido not understand what you consider as problem here (the problem is not the latency which is more or less normal thing for ipv6 at this time) "The problem" also showing on you box is that dns6 is resolved first forcing the connection to be ipv6 which is not something that we really want a

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 11:32:34AM -0400, Nenad Pudar wrote: > Jared > > The "problem " with your site is that it has the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 > In may case on dual-stack unix (sun) box dns6 is always resolved first > (properly) and then sometimes because of the latency (ipv6) it times out

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-09-02 Thread Nenad Pudar
Jared The "problem " with your site is that it has the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 In may case on dual-stack unix (sun) box dns6 is always resolved first (properly) and then sometimes because of the latency (ipv6) it times out. On the other hand that prevents me from going through ipv4 connection

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-08-29 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 05:14:49AM -0500, neal rauhauser wrote: > I didn't know their NOC number, puck.nether.net is down, normal phone Uh, puck is fine. http://puck.nether.net/netops/nocs.cgi?ispname=sprint > channels lead to voicemail jail. Sorry to disturb your morning but its > mu

RE: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-08-29 Thread Mark Borchers
Sprint's support contact structure is rather specialized, rather than one-size-fits-all. http://www.sprint.net/contacts.html Could you kindly verify that you've tried the right place before sending NANOG to General Quarters? Thanx > I didn't know their NOC number, puck.nether.net is down,

Re: Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

2003-08-29 Thread neal rauhauser
I didn't know their NOC number, puck.nether.net is down, normal phone channels lead to voicemail jail. Sorry to disturb your morning but its much easier to complete by 0600 than to have five counties worth of users dialing a phone right next to where you're working. Simon Lockhart wrote: >