On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:42:36PM -0700,
Nick Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
a message of 39 lines which said:
How many of you have actually use(d) Zebra/Linux as a routing device
IMHO, the question is not perfectly phrased. You actually have several
issues:
* use a regular PC instead of
First, a little background..
My CTO made my stomach curdle today when he announced that he wanted to
do away with all our cisco [routers] and instead use Linux/zebra boxen.
We are a small company, so naturally penny pinching is the primary
motivation.
It is primarily small companies that
I would be interested to know how many software (for want of a better
description) routers are in live production in this kind of environment
i.e. the 99.% Uptime variety, from speaking to people albeit
randomly in data centres it would seem to be more common than one might
expect.
It
Nick Burke wrote:
Greetings fellow nanogers,
How many of you have actually use(d) Zebra/Linux as a routing device
(core and/or regional, I'd be interested in both) in a production (read:
99.999% required, hsrp, bgp, dot1q, other goodies) environment?
Just have a look for MTU.
If
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First, a little background..
My CTO made my stomach curdle today when he announced that he wanted to
do away with all our cisco [routers] and instead use Linux/zebra boxen.
We are a small company, so naturally penny pinching is the primary
On 6/7/06, Peter Dambier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The installation, a nuclear bunker, used to house some websites and
services. (And an XTC-lab :)
Ah, I sometimes wonder about how people get the idea of deploying
alternate roots.
Then I see that email from Peter and it all becomes blindingly
On 6/7/06, Nick Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First, a little background..
My CTO made my stomach curdle today when he announced that he wanted to
do away with all our cisco [routers] and instead use Linux/zebra boxen.
This looks reasonable .. http://www.linux-vpn.de/lr101.php
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Suresh
Thanks to all for all the feedback!
It seems what a lot of people are saying is that it's almost acceptable
(in that, you shouldn't if you can afford other devices), given the
right time and engineering. The cost of supporting seems to be
unanimously higher then going with a specific vendor.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Nick Burke wrote:
What about better case situations?* IE:
toe cards
custom kernel
no moving parts (ie: hard drive, maybe fans if possible)
up-to-date software packages with internal coders to fix ugly bugs, etc
actual research into what packages hardware would be best
I
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
william(at)elan.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you should be able
to set linux that is secure as freebsd. There are some differences
in the routing code whereas Linux is designed with per-flow based
switching in mind (which works very well when used as a server)
I've seen confliction on if *bsd or linux is better, this (hopefully)
isn't that surprising to anyone.
You should do a PPS throughput analysis of your own to see which OS
works better on the hardware that you plan to use. Drivers, and the
susceptibility of the kernel to livelock, are where
I'm running ImageStream routers for the Internet distribution side of
my network (2 edge routers, 2 core routers) and I'm extremely happy...
This is a datacenter network and my customers are happy, I guess
that's all that counts.
In my opinion, I prefer to go with a open-source based solution
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:31:51PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
On 6/7/06, Nick Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First, a little background..
My CTO made my stomach curdle today when he announced that he wanted to
do away with all our cisco [routers] and instead use Linux/zebra boxen.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Justin W. Pauler wrote:
I'm running ImageStream routers for the Internet distribution side of my
network (2 edge routers, 2 core routers) and I'm extremely happy... This
is a datacenter network and my customers are happy, I guess that's all
that counts.
In my
(ps, particulars are deliberately not included.. I'm not looking for
advice, just if anyone has any solid experience with this..)
Unless you are absolutely certain of how routers need to work for your
environment, and am willing to engineer your way out of problems, using this
platform to
Linux routers are great for redundantly routing between your cable-modem and DSL
at home. Using a linux router in production is a very very bad idea, although it
may seem appealing to suits with no networking knowledge. I'm sure that other
posters will provide you with many pages of reasons
IMHO, it's a bad idea. A less intrusive alternative might be a FreeBSD based platform running Xorp/Quagga.
Tiffany.On 6/6/06, Nick Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings fellow nanogers,Long time lurker, first time poster (please, be gentle!).After looking at the archives, I didn't see this
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Albert Meyer wrote:
2. OS exploits
One might argue that is an issue with any device. Cisco have their fair
share of IOS updates due to security related bugs. Linux appears to have
many, mostly due to the number of services that you can run. It's
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Subject: Re: Zebra/linux device production networking?
IMHO, it's a bad idea. A less intrusive alternative might be a FreeBSD
based platform running Xorp/Quagga.
Tiffany.
On 6/6/06, Nick
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Nick Burke wrote:
How many of you have actually use(d) Zebra/Linux as a routing device
(core and/or regional, I'd be interested in both) in a production (read:
99.999% required, hsrp, bgp, dot1q, other goodies) environment?
Sure - I've done this
On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Nick Burke wrote:
How many of you have actually use(d) Zebra/Linux as a routing
device (core and/or regional, I'd be interested in both) in a
production (read: 99.999% required, hsrp, bgp, dot1q, other
goodies) environment?
And, if you care to spend this
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Mark D. Kaye wrote:
I would be interested to know how many software (for want of a better
description) routers are in live production in this kind of environment
i.e. the 99.% Uptime variety, from speaking to people albeit
randomly in data
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Nick Burke wrote:
First, a little background.. My CTO made my stomach curdle today when he
announced that he wanted to do away with all our cisco [routers] and
instead use Linux/zebra boxen. We are a small company, so naturally
penny pinching is the primary motivation.
(resent after getting on nanog-post)
On 6/6/06, Nick Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many of you have actually use(d) Zebra/Linux as a routing device
(core and/or regional, I'd be interested in both) in a production (read:
99.999% required, hsrp, bgp, dot1q, other goodies) environment?
I
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