At 22:37 +0100 26/6/03, Peter Galbavy wrote:
>Fearghas McKay wrote:
>> ... Scotland
>> has its own seperate legal system that is based on Roman law.
>
>But that's OK - no one want to go there anyway, eh Fearghas and Neil ? Look,
>even most of the UK cabinet have left to be corrupt in London instea
Let's not forget those little smtp daemons that you can install on your
local machine to bypass your ISP's smtp server. I've actually
installed a couple of them for small clients that needed a mail server
their office could send through because Verizon's smtp server will not
accept an email
Fearghas McKay wrote:
> ... Scotland
> has its own seperate legal system that is based on Roman law.
But that's OK - no one want to go there anyway, eh Fearghas and Neil ? Look,
even most of the UK cabinet have left to be corrupt in London instead...
:-) <- for the humour impaired from north of
> Closely related to the problems of open proxies and arcane
> abuse reporting procedures is the problem of offering so-called
> "bullet proof" web site hosting. ISPs that adopt AUPs that
> permit the hosting of sites being spamvertised should be shot
> on site.
www.spamhaus.org tries to do just
At 7:59 -0700 26/6/03, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>This is true in the US (except, possibly, in Louisiana) where British
>common law is the basis of the system. Louisiana law is based on the
>Napoleonic Code and is supposed to be very different, but I can't say
>for sure. I assume that the UK has simila
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Vixie writes:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Huopio Kauto) writes:
>
>> How about IODEF? Lots of CERT:s and company-internal abuse teams:s ticketing
>> systems are going to eat it with ease - if not now, soon.
>
>please post a url so we can all take a look at the "IODEF
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Huopio Kauto) writes:
> How about IODEF? Lots of CERT:s and company-internal abuse teams:s ticketing
> systems are going to eat it with ease - if not now, soon.
please post a url so we can all take a look at the "IODEF" complaint format.
--
Paul Vixie
Kevin Oberman wrote:
> You confuse civil and criminal law.
Always happy to learn. I hope M$ get very very embarassed in open court if
this makes it that far. "Pot calling the milk bottle black."
Peter
> From: "Peter Galbavy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:36:02 +0100
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Paul Vixie wrote:
> > consider microsoft-yahoo-aol's big fad of the moment which is suing
> > spammers and blaming asia. the number one (#1) contributor to spam
>
> And then: h
>> Perhaps someone could write a bcp for an email-form that lays out the
same
>> information so we can make the complaints use this format and all
abuse
>> departments can accept using this form, to get some structure to it?
>yow. i first asked that this be done in 1998, and for this very reas
Paul Vixie wrote:
> consider microsoft-yahoo-aol's big fad of the moment which is suing
> spammers and blaming asia. the number one (#1) contributor to spam
And then: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3020566.stm
Not in that report, but on TV last night a M$ spokedroid was quoted as
saying so
Paul Vixie wrote:
>
> ...are doing more to help spam than to stop it, in spite of themselves.
Paul,
Have You tried to send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]/net?
I belive the referal in the route object is stale
and should have been taken away long ago. I know
that Telia for a certain time did en
> > ... it is the year 2003, and you bloody well need to learn how to
> > accept complaints about YOUR CUSTOMERS using a format that is most
> > convenient to THE VICTIMS. (and you should be THANKING US FOR IT since
> > we are DOING YOUR WORK FOR YOU.)
>
> I agree, I was furious as well when I f
MS is also, I am told, behind the gutting, stalling, and undermining
of Senator Bowen's SB 12 (the California anti-spam legislation).
Right now her office is basically scrambling to get other ISPs to give
their input so that they can demonstrate that MS does not speak for
the networking wo
From: "Paul Vixie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> route:217.208.0.0/13
> descr:TELIANET-BLK
> remarks: Abuse issues should be reported at
> remarks: http://www.telia.com/security/
> remarks: Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be auto-replied
> remarks: and referred to the U
> > gr.
>
> telia has been on my list for 2.5 years now for this stuff.
let the public shaming begin, then.
four isp abusebots have rejected my complaints tonight because (gasp!)
i included a copy of the virus i was complaining about. cluestick please!
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:
> excuse me, telia, but your customers are spamming me, and i have no plans to
> teach lartomatic (my homebrew complaintbot) how to log into your web site.
> it is the year 2003, and you bloody well need to learn how to accept complaints
> about YOUR CUSTOME
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