Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On 13 Aug 2006, Paul Vixie wrote: which is, please move these threads to a non-SP mailing list. R [ 41: Danny McPherson ] Re: mitigating botnet CCs has become useless R [ 22: Laurence F. Sheldon] R45: Danny McPherson R [ 62: Laurence F. Sheldon] R

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:48:01PM -0500, Gadi Evron wrote: Paul, apparently, we are in disagreement! :) Botnets are an operational issue affecting most of every large carrier to momspops service provider here. I believe a lot of the information about botnets, which is not that

RE: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-17 Thread Robert J. Hantson
I have to agree... I joined this list a few weeks ago, and am pretty sad at the garbage I have to sift through. It's more of a FLAME Thrower if you ask me. I'm giving it another few days, and I'm off to looking for other lists that are much more useful than this deal here. Robert Hantson

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:48:01PM -0500, Gadi Evron wrote: Paul, apparently, we are in disagreement! :) Botnets are an operational issue affecting most of every large carrier to momspops service provider here. I believe a lot of

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:15:25 EDT, Richard A Steenbergen said: If this is all we have to talk about and it is on-topic, then NANOG has failed, and we need a new list where people can actually discuss network operations. Admittedly, discussions about how to mitigate a botnet are less on topic

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-17 Thread Matt Ghali
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Gadi Evron wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: If this is all we have to talk about and it is on-topic, then NANOG has failed, and we need a new list where people can actually discuss network operations. Who is stopping you? Either to raise

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-14 Thread Paul Vixie
http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/botnets thanks, didn't know about it. But isn't it still usefull, when urgent matters concerning botnets will still discussed on the nanog-list? Please let me disabussed to it, but it's just my opinion. almost everything that happens in

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-14 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 04:42:31PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/botnets thanks, didn't know about it. But isn't it still usefull, when urgent matters concerning botnets will still discussed on the nanog-list? Please let me disabussed

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-14 Thread Albert Meyer
Thomas Kuehling wrote: Dear Fergie, On So, 2006-08-13 at 21:49 +, Fergie wrote: For what it's worth, there _is_ a botnet discussison list: General information about the mailing list is at: http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/botnets thanks, didn't know about it. But

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-14 Thread Steve Gibbard
I'm not a list moderator either, anymore. I spent enough time moderating the NANOG list to get thoroughly disgusted with those who need babysitters to supervise them in a professional forum. I'm sure the current group of volunteer moderators would appreciate some common sense and common

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-13 Thread Peter Dambier
Paul Vixie wrote: which is, please move these threads to a non-SP mailing list. R [ 41: Danny McPherson ] Re: mitigating botnet CCs has become useless R [ 22: Laurence F. Sheldon] R45: Danny McPherson R [ 62: Laurence F. Sheldon] R [ 162: J. Oquendo

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-13 Thread Danny McPherson
On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: which is, please move these threads to a non-SP mailing list. R [ 41: Danny McPherson ] Re: mitigating botnet CCs has become useless R [ 22: Laurence F. Sheldon] R45: Danny McPherson R [ 62: Laurence F.

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-13 Thread Thomas Kuehling
Dear all, On So, 2006-08-13 at 15:17 -0600, Danny McPherson wrote: Interestingly enough, I lurk here 99.999% of the time. I comment on this thread and folks ask to move it to a non-SP mailing list? Perhaps non-operational, but this certainly has direct implications on SPs and I'm of the

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-13 Thread Fergie
For what it's worth, there _is_ a botnet discussison list: General information about the mailing list is at: http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/botnets - ferg -- Thomas Kuehling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, On So, 2006-08-13 at 15:17 -0600, Danny McPherson wrote:

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-13 Thread Thomas Kuehling
Dear Fergie, On So, 2006-08-13 at 21:49 +, Fergie wrote: For what it's worth, there _is_ a botnet discussison list: General information about the mailing list is at: http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/botnets thanks, didn't know about it. But isn't it still usefull,

Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-13 Thread Fergie
My personal opinion is that _some_ bitnet issues are indeed relevant to the NANOG list, but that's just me. :-) I mean, it _does_ affect network ops at times... - ferg -- Thomas Kuehling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Fergie, On So, 2006-08-13 at 21:49 +, Fergie wrote: For what it's