Re: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-26 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 01:31:36PM -0600, Steve Meuse wrote: On 8/21/05, Peter Dambier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had a look into one of my microwave books. I have seen in coax cables the speed of lite drop to 90% or 80% depending on the insulator, the dielectric.

Re: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-22 Thread up
No, they were actually over the speed of light for a portion of the signal: They were also able to create extreme conditions in which the light signal travelled faster than 300 million meters a second. And even though this seems to violate all sorts of cherished physical assumptions, Einstein

Re: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-22 Thread David Hagel
I asked about this article to someone who works on optical properties of materials. Here's what he says (I don't pretend to understand everything though): This is called superluminal propagation, and many groups have shown it in different media; this one is in fiber. However, this does not

Re: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-22 Thread Steve Meuse
On 8/21/05, Peter Dambier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had a look into one of my microwave books. I have seen in coaxcables the speed of lite drop to 90% or 80% depending on the insulator,the dielectric. I believe this is referred to as velocity factor. -Steve -- -Steve

Re: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-21 Thread Peter Dambier
Hank Nussbacher wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: I doubt they are exceeding the speed of light. Propogation delay inside fiber is about 2/3 the speed of light so perhaps they have succeeded to increase the speed to 3/4? :-) -Hank I have seen experiments with

Re: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-21 Thread Steve Brown
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light? Man, I knew I should've gotten in on the ground floor in any effort to speed up light -- someone's going to be rich beyond their wildest dreams

Re: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-21 Thread Steve Brown
Okay, guess I should have read the article first, given the title is Light that travels faster than the speed of light Steve Perhaps they are referring to being able to vary the speed while it is below the speed of light. That is, slowing it down to 1/10th the speed of light, and then

Re: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-21 Thread Peter Dambier
-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light? Man, I knew I should've gotten in on the ground floor in any effort to speed up light -- someone's going to be rich beyond their wildest dreams. :-) (Thanks to a post over at Slashdot) the Science Blog reports that: [snip] A team

RE: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-20 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary
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Re: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-20 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: I doubt they are exceeding the speed of light. Propogation delay inside fiber is about 2/3 the speed of light so perhaps they have succeeded to increase the speed to 3/4? :-) -Hank Man, I knew I should've gotten in on the ground floor in

RE: Semi-on-topic: Light that travels faster than the speed of light?

2005-08-20 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
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