Re: Spamcop

2004-05-12 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Christopher McCrory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think this is a violation of the SpamCop TOS. Somewhere in there is > says something like, Don't report stuff you asked for like mailing > lists, newsletters, etc. > > I can't find the link now :(, bu

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Vicky Rode writes on 5/12/2004 12:21 AM: Just wondering why was my e-mail thread (Hierarchical Credit-based Queuing (HCQ): QoS) dated 5/9/2004 9:36 PM reported as a spam? Just That question is best asked of the admin of widowmaker.com, a user of which reported your nanog post to spamcop

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread chuck goolsbee
I would agree with your analogy if Spamcop limited automatic reporting to subset of the community. The problem is they do not. In Spamcop's defence, it seems that their systems were never designed to handle the wide variety of 'attack vectors" that spam uses today. Spamcop also

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Chris Brenton wrote: On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 18:15, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: As an ex-admin, I have some "serious issues" about the way Spamcop works, but this argument is similar to one that says a credit reporting company has to prove that you are a deadbeat before reporting th

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Chris Brenton
On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 18:15, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: > > As an ex-admin, I have some "serious issues" about the way Spamcop > works, but this argument is similar to one that says a credit reporting > company has to prove that you are a deadbeat before reporting th

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Chris Brenton wrote: Further, Spamcop should implement some form of check to verify that the e-mail is in fact spam before they go pointing the finger and/or blocking mail servers. The problem of end users leveraging Spamcop to get them off of mailing lists or a simple way of DoSsing a

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Chris Brenton
On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 16:35, Guðbjörn S. Hreinsson wrote: > > Possible someone on the list didn't understand the content, didn't > realize this was sent via a mailing lists and submitted this as a spam > message to SPAMCOP. Less likely someone didn't know how to >

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 11 May 2004 21:23:55 -, "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=F0bj=F6rn_S._Hreinsson?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > But an IQ test would be nice. What should be the I to test for? http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19991114&mode=classic pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Guðbjörn S . Hreinsson
> >. There have been no reminders from > > the mailing list since I signed up which I think is a good policy for a > > mailing list. The mailing list only uses "Precedence: bulk" to mark it as > > a mailing list. > > the list is pretty active, so i would dare say that reminders are > superfluous.

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Guðbjörn S . Hreinsson
Possible someone on the list didn't understand the content, didn't realize this was sent via a mailing lists and submitted this as a spam message to SPAMCOP. Less likely someone didn't know how to get off the mailing list and this was the result. In both cases the submitte

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
JC Dill wrote: It could also simply be a mistake. The inet-access list was once reported as a spam source by a happy subscriber who was busy reporting hundreds (or thousands?) of spams and clicked /included a list post by accident. -- p.s. Please do not cc me on replies to the list. Please

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread JC Dill
At 12:09 PM 5/11/2004, Jared Mauch wrote: I've found that a number of people that are spamcop subscribers report messages as spam that are not when they don't know how to get removed from lists. It could also simply be a mistake. The inet-access list was once reported as a spam

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
I got one of those during the Spring last year, when I was writing about the state of the net in Iraq. Someone used SpamCop to get my ISP's abuse desk interested in me. Not much to be said about that.

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Richard Welty
On Tue, 11 May 2004 12:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Gregory Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm guessing here, but it was probably because the *.rr.com addresses > originate a LOT of spam and someone has a procmail filter that > automatically refers any mail from that domain to spamc

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Christopher McCrory
cut and paste > of the reported incident. > > > Please advice. > I think this is a violation of the SpamCop TOS. Somewhere in there is says something like, Don't report stuff you asked for like mailing lists, newsletters, etc. I can't find the link now :(

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Jared Mauch
t and paste > > of the reported incident. > > Vicky: > > I'm guessing here, but it was probably because the *.rr.com addresses > originate a LOT of spam and someone has a procmail filter that > automatically refers any mail from that domain to spamcop... > >

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:51:10 PDT, Vicky Rode said: > Just wondering why was my e-mail thread (Hierarchical Credit-based > Queuing (HCQ): QoS) dated 5/9/2004 9:36 PM reported as a spam? Just My guess is that somebody's automated tool saw "credit-based" and concluded that it was Yet Another Mortg

Re: Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Gregory Hicks
> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:51:10 -0700 > From: Vicky Rode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Spamcop > > > Hi there, > > Just wondering why was my e-ma

Spamcop

2004-05-11 Thread Vicky Rode
) by vmx2.spamcop.net with SMTP; 10 May 2004 07:47:00 -0700 Received: from [68.13.211.63] by spamcop.net with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 2004 14:47:01 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SpamCop (24.30.181.126) id:988145978]Hierarchical Credit-based Queuing (HCQ): QoS Prec

SpamCop error (was: Re: More Gifts for a CTO who has everything ...)

2003-04-01 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
t; Anyhow, SpamCop V1.3.3 is proud to point out that the following item of mail, sent to this list (nanog), meets its seal of Spam-Proval. I know cause my ISP (home) asked me "Eric, what's up with this?" The originating host ran FreeBSD 5.0 and sendmail 8.12.8 when the mail wa

Re: Very large JoeJob in progress against Spamcop (fwd)

2002-09-07 Thread william
Yes, we got bunch of these as well (at least 10), just two came in today. I know for sure its not actual spamcop since they send copy of email in question. Plus email was sent to all email addresses of particular dedicated hosting website, but the website is used for advertising and customers

SpamCop Forgeries

2002-09-07 Thread Marius Strom
FYI, for those of you who get worried when you see mail from spamcop hitting your postmaster addresses: http://www.julianhaight.com/forgery.shtml It may be forged. -- /-> Marius Strom | Always carry a sh