Re: Stumper

2003-01-22 Thread Dennis Boylan
Sounds similar to my problem with the Linksys cable/DSL router. My problem was that it would work perfectly with NAT enabled, but the minute I turned NAT off, I couldn't get to a lot of sites. I tried a number of firmwares. I even tried to get support from Linksys. But, after a week without any r

Re: Stumper

2003-01-22 Thread Miguel Mata-Cardona
we used to have that problem here. a big customer from us does many gre tunnels. the problem seemed to be that they were blocking icmp, thus every mtu variation on the way from any point could not be known by the routers making the point unavailable (we actually saw the packets just before ent

RE: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Martin Renschler (EWU)
ECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:36 PM To: Mark J. Scheller Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stumper On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark J. Scheller wrote: :: Here's the particulars: :: :: Users that have Verizon DSL and a Linksys cable/DSL router have :: difficulties accessing sites on

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 08:06:07PM -0500, hc wrote: > > MTU on user-end shouldn't really be an issue here.. B/c if so, then (I > am only assuming this) how could they access other sites like yahoo.com, > etc? I am sure your web site is no different than other common ones. Well, you're forgetti

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread hc
MTU on user-end shouldn't really be an issue here.. B/c if so, then (I am only assuming this) how could they access other sites like yahoo.com, etc? I am sure your web site is no different than other common ones. Linksys routers have various issues. The best bet is to go after the firmware and

RE: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Cutler, James R
MTU on the PC's -Original Message- From: Mark J. Scheller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 2003-01-21, Tuesday 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stumper The Linksys does have an MTU setting, and I've had my users try some lower settings to see if it made any d

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark J. Scheller wrote: > The Linksys does have an MTU setting, and I've had my users try some lower > settings to see if it made any differences. One user set the MTU on the > Linksys as low as 1200 with no noticeable improvement. If you're using path MTU discovery (in oth

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
This would depend upon the direction of the packets that are dropped and where the broken device is. If the 1500 byte packets are coming in from the Internet and the Linksys needs to forward onto a smaller MTU media but finds the DF bit set it will return an icmp fragment.. if this icmp is then d

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread William Warren
If the MTU is not helping then go get the latest firmware. Also you cannot use port forwarding in most linksys routers with DHCP enabled. For those routers you have to set everyone statically and turn of DHCP for port forwarding to work. Mark J. Scheller wrote: The Linksys does have an MTU s

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread jeffrey.arnold
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark J. Scheller wrote: :: Here's the particulars: :: :: Users that have Verizon DSL and a Linksys cable/DSL router have :: difficulties accessing sites on my network -- whether they are trying :: with http, https, smtp, pop3, ssh, ftp, etc., etc. Oh, but pings :: seem to b

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Mark J. Scheller
The Linksys does have an MTU setting, and I've had my users try some lower settings to see if it made any differences. One user set the MTU on the Linksys as low as 1200 with no noticeable improvement. Anything else I should look at? mS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

RE: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Deepak Jain
OTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Mark J. Scheller > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Stumper > > > > > I have run into a problem that has me completely stumped, so I'm > tossing it > out to NANOG for some help. > > Before I la

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread William Warren
(I think that is the right value) seemed to clear things up. Ray Burkholder -Original Message- From: Mark J. Scheller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 21, 2003 18:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stumper I have run into a problem that has me completely stumped, so I&#

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Could this be a packet size issue ? You might try ping -s and see if, say, 1500 byte and 4500 byte packets get through.m On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 05:25 PM, Mark J. Scheller wrote: I have run into a problem that has me completely stumped, so I'm tossing it out to NANOG for some hel

RE: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Ray Burkholder
; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Stumper > > > > > I have run into a problem that has me completely stumped, so > I'm tossing it out to NANOG for some help. > > Before I lay out the specifics, I'm not trying to point > fingers at any particular ISP or vend

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Are there sub-1500 byte MTUs anywhere and is one of the devices (Linksys?) dropping the relevant icmp fragments? Morpheus might be working by not having DF bit set.. just a possibility test by removing any filtering of icmp Steve On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark J. Scheller wrote: > > > I have

Re: Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread fkittred
MTU

Stumper

2003-01-21 Thread Mark J. Scheller
I have run into a problem that has me completely stumped, so I'm tossing it out to NANOG for some help. Before I lay out the specifics, I'm not trying to point fingers at any particular ISP or vendor here, but this problem only exhibits itself in very specific configurations. Unfortunately, the