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Subject: RE: Unplugging spamming PCs
Hi,
Mail servers should be registered just like domains and shutdown by a
registrar if they are misusing their registered services. This really
needs to be handled by a multi-lateral legal solution, industry will
not
fix it alone.
No, I don't think
Larry Pingree writes on 6/26/2004 12:11 AM:
What I am proposing is have a registry that you must register
with before other mail servers will accept mail from you. Similar to how
MAPS RBL works, but the mail server itself, enforces it, rather than a
firewall or a ancillary device ACL. This could
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:11:36 PDT, Larry Pingree said:
What I am proposing is have a registry that you must register
with before other mail servers will accept mail from you. Similar to how
MAPS RBL works, but the mail server itself, enforces it, rather than a
firewall or a ancillary
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 00:15:37 +0800, Suresh Ramasubramanian said:
That's great. Let's all return to the good old days of X400 and UUCP
I have to congratulate you... it's been a while since anybody's managed to
bring back two entirely distinct sets of repressed nightmares in one line. :)
: Unplugging spamming PCs
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:11:36 PDT, Larry Pingree said:
What I am proposing is have a registry that you must register
with before other mail servers will accept mail from you. Similar to
how
MAPS RBL works, but the mail server itself, enforces it, rather than a
firewall
On 2004-06-25T12:47-0700, Larry Pingree wrote:
) single customer that you want to have conversations with. Authorization
) must still be authorized by a third party agency which verifies
) validity between everyone involved in communications.
You seem to be making a case for only accepting
Larry Pingree [25/06/04 12:47 -0700]:
Authentication and Authorization are two separate and distinct
issues. TLS and Authentication have been around for quite a while, but
without centralized authorization it will never be deployed by disparate
I'm sure the IETF MARID list would be
Larry Pingree wrote:
Can you suggest another method that would have more accuracy? I think
it's ridiculous that every service on the internet is provided without
any authentication and integrity services, if we allowed anyone to
call from anywhere within the telephone network, you'd have
And again, much of this comes down to enforcement. When was the last
time you heard of a spammer's domain being pulled? How about the last
time you saw a spammer be even remotely bothered by having their
domain pulled? Do you think they'll really care less about losing a
mail server when
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Larry Pingree wrote:
| Mail servers should be registered just like domains and shutdown by a
| registrar if they are misusing their registered services. This really
| needs to be handled by a multi-lateral legal solution, industry will not
| fix it
That sentence is A joke 15000 subscribers affected
Court Convicts Obscene Text Messager
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=IPQ4NZVA4P24ACRBAELCFEY?type=technologyNewsstoryID=5504916
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And again, much of this comes down to enforcement.
When was
That sentence is A joke 15000 subscribers affected
A joke? Doing hard time is no joke.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;
jsessionid=IPQ4NZVA4P24ACRBAELCFEY?type=technologyNewsstoryID=5504916
Maybe I read the Russian wrong here
http://www.echel.ru/news/?page=2id=3421#3421
but it
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Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 5:26 PM
To: Larry Pingree
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unplugging spamming PCs
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:40:23 -0700, Larry Pingree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I agree with you it's a hard problem to solve. But unless there is
mandatory cooperation
--On Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:17 AM -0700 Larry Pingree
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Joe,
If only those who are approved email senders are allowed to be
accepted, this allows police, FBI, or DHS to go after only those who are
registered and abusing it. It's for the same purpose that we
And all the spammers move to China where the FBI, DHS and police have
no authority.
Oh wait - you say they already have?
** Reply to message from Larry Pingree [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu,
24 Jun 2004 11:17:37 -0700
Hi Joe,
If only those who are approved email senders are allowed to be
: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:40 AM
To: Larry Pingree
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Unplugging spamming PCs
--On Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:17 AM -0700 Larry Pingree
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Joe,
If only those who are approved email senders are allowed to be
accepted
get to see. - Larry Pingree
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From: John Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:40 AM
To: Larry Pingree
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Unplugging spamming PCs
--On Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:17 AM -0700 Larry Pingree
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
Hi,
Mail servers should be registered just like domains and shutdown by a
registrar if they are misusing their registered services. This really
needs to be handled by a multi-lateral legal solution, industry will not
fix it alone.
No, I don't think this is good solution
First of all, we could
one of those members is comcast..the #1 source of spam for a
while running..ironic isn't it?
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/06/22/tech.spam.reut/index.html
Consumers who allow their infected computers to send out millions of
spam messages could be unplugged from the
At least they now realize they are one of the worst and are finally
becoming proactive:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5230615.html
They are also starting to block port 25.
-b
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:27:50 -0400, William Warren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
one of those members is
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Brett wrote:
At least they now realize they are one of the worst and are finally
becoming proactive:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5230615.html
They are also starting to block port 25.
That is still reactive (first the abuse has to occur, then you try and
filter
According to my daily log reports, I cannot tell!
Comcast persistently remains the number 1 source of zombie spamming to my
network.
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My bad! I was too busy with that pesky little thing called work to
scrutinize my grammar before I sent ;-) It is reactive, but they are
at least doing something.
Completely blocking port 25 (except to comcast mail servers) will stop
zombies, but not people intentionally sending spam. Anyone
warning. this is about spamming pc's. hit D now.
[comcast] [is] definitely not taking the hard line against spam either,
but at least they are making an effort.
sure, if you mean their marketing department is making an effort to insulate
their sales department from decreasing revenue by
At 10:07 AM 6/23/2004, Sam Hayes Merritt, III wrote:
That is still reactive (first the abuse has to occur, then you try and
filter anymore from occuring), at least they might be now be doing
something that everyone else has been doing for years.
To me, this smacks of an intent to continue ignoring
, 2004 1:15 PM
To: Sam Hayes Merritt, III
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unplugging spamming PCs
Sam Hayes Merritt, III wrote:
Proactive would be blocking port 25 except to comcast.net's mail
servers,
at least on retail users without static IPs, and then opening it up if
the customer cannot work
Larry Pingree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mail servers should be registered just like domains and shutdown by
a registrar if they are misusing their registered services. This
really needs to be handled by a multi-lateral legal solution,
industry will not fix it alone.
Yes, that's just what we
many
things they never get to see. - Larry Pingree
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Peter Corlett
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unplugging spamming PCs
Larry Pingree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mail
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:40:23 -0700, Larry Pingree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with you it's a hard problem to solve. But unless there is
mandatory cooperation within mail server software (which can be
monitored) to interface with a registry of acceptable/registered sites,
then this
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/06/22/tech.spam.reut/index.html
Consumers who allow their infected computers to send out millions of
spam messages could be unplugged from the Internet under a proposal
released Tuesday by six large e-mail providers.
-Hank
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