On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
Do you have any idea what sort of underprovisioning is typical for this
sort of service in Japan ? Do they really have anything like a symmetric
100 Mbps all the way back to the backbone ?
yep
Do you have any reference for this?
Provisioning 10G distribution
> Do you have any idea what sort of underprovisioning is typical for this
> sort of service in Japan ? Do they really have anything like a symmetric
> 100 Mbps all the way back to the backbone ?
yep
randy
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Malayter, Christopher wrote:
I think you're very wrong here. For packet delivery of video based
services, I could see a home using 100mb/s between voice, video, and
data within the next 12-24 months. All of the product roadmaps I've
been looking at contain "How to get 100m
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:23:53 -1000
Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Let's say for the sake of argument that by 2010 we want to give every
> > household 5 megabit/s on average. How could this be done with technology
> > today seen on the radar? Remember that the households should wan
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: cost of doing business (was:Re: OpenTransit
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
fwiw, 100mb to the home costs about that in japan
Well, I dont really see the average home actually using 100meg all the
time in the near future, thus my 5 meg utilization average estimate.
Access could be whatever speed of course, access speed not used does
Hannigan, Martin writes:
>As long as the hardware can keep up, the amount of glass in spectrum
>in the ground should make this an impossibility for the near term,
>10 years plus.
Fiber isn't useful by itself; there are two obvious things needed to
turn a piece of glass into something that can car
Brandon Butterworth writes:
>Perhaps they aim to keep driving the competition out of business
>to ensure there's a cheap supply of equipment so they can grow
>whilst charging so little?
There are several problems with such a plan, even were someone to
attempt it. One, overall traffic is still gro
> Let's say for the sake of argument that by 2010 we want to give every
> household 5 megabit/s on average. How could this be done with technology
> today seen on the radar? Remember that the households should want to pay
> for the bandwidth as well, meaning they might be willing to pay $30 per
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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Mike Leber wrote:
H, router and optical gear capabilities are growing faster than the
market. Can you say "permanent state of affairs".
Do you have any facts to back up this statement, as I am of another
opinion. We're seeing doubling in traffic growth each year and the
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mikael Abrahamsson writes:
> >So what will people do? Stop selling when their networks are full? Ignore
> >the economics and let other business carry the cost of bulk internet? Go
> >for cheaper platforms? Go bankrupt (if no other business can carr
> I'm sure a few more provider failures
> are in the offing - but obviously if the marginal price for bandwith
> doesn't pay for the capital costs of expansion, either eventually
> bandwidth will be more expensive, or the equipment will be cheaper.
Perhaps they aim to keep driving the competition
Mikael Abrahamsson writes:
>So what will people do? Stop selling when their networks are full? Ignore
>the economics and let other business carry the cost of bulk internet? Go
>for cheaper platforms? Go bankrupt (if no other business can carry the
>cost) ?
This problem will be fixed when the e
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
In general I'd prefer to operate in a healthy marketplace, where all
parties are making money, theres little risk of the supplier filing
bankrupcty and I am getting reasonable customers service. That can only
lead to growth of the industry, healthy b
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