Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
>
>
> Uhm, I don't think you can blame the legislators for this one. Almost
> identical legislation being introduced in six different states? I suspect
> an outside influence was involved in drafting the proposed legislation.
>
It i
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 02:24, David Schwartz wrote:
> The laws require an "intent to" "conceal" the "origin or
> destination". NAT would not count, as the intent is to share a scarce
> resource, not to conceal the origin or destination -- the origin is
> only concealed to the extent neces
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:47:25 -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@whenever>,
>David Schwartz writes:
>>On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:06:56 -0500, blitz wrote:
>>>If it is, it reveals how utterly clueless our legislators really
>>>are
>>The text I saw talks about a d
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@whenever>, David Schwar
tz writes:
>
>On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:06:56 -0500, blitz wrote:
>
>>If it is, it reveals how utterly clueless our legislators really
>>are
>
> The text I saw talks about a device's "primary purpose".
I'm not sure what text you saw.
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:06:56 -0500, blitz wrote:
>If it is, it reveals how utterly clueless our legislators really
>are
The text I saw talks about a device's "primary purpose". The primary
purpose of NAT is not to hide anything, it's to allow multiple
connections to share a scarce re
tructural
integrity of the composition of the pavement,
and where the road is -=leading=-.
(Back on topic, Ma'am ? ;)
> -Original Message-
> From: Tomas Daniska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:
My apologies, I accidentally hit ^X instead of ^K when editing an eamil.
I was going to make a smartass comment, included below, just not to the
whole NANOG community.
Apologies,
scott
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Tronet Computer Networks
Plynarenska 5, 829 75 Bratislava, Slovakia
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Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:07:24PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:59:02 EST, Richard Irving said:
> > > Sean Donelan wrote:
> > > > identical legislation being introduced in six different states? I suspect
> > > > an outside influence was invol
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:59:02 EST, Richard Irving said:
> > Sean Donelan wrote:
> > > identical legislation being introduced in six different states? I suspect
> > > an outside influence was involved in drafting the proposed legislation.
> > Now, -that's- using your no
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:07:24PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:59:02 EST, Richard Irving said:
> > Sean Donelan wrote:
> > > identical legislation being introduced in six different states? I suspect
> > > an outside influence was involved in drafting the proposed legis
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:59:02 EST, Richard Irving said:
> Sean Donelan wrote:
> > identical legislation being introduced in six different states? I suspect
> > an outside influence was involved in drafting the proposed legislation.
>
> Now, -that's- using your noodle.
>
>With just a little
Sean Donelan wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, blitz wrote:
> > If it is, it reveals how utterly clueless our legislators really are
> > At 15:09 3/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
> > >http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595
> Uhm, I don't think you can blame the legislators for this one. Almost
> ident
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, blitz wrote:
> If it is, it reveals how utterly clueless our legislators really are
>
> At 15:09 3/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
> >http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595
Uhm, I don't think you can blame the legislators for this one. Almost
identical legislation being introd
How do like this recent rounds of bureaucrats attempting
to make lawsh-r-m ?
A: IMHO:This should be officially declared,
"out of their jurisdiction".
of such small municipalities... it is sort of like having a
Nurse make the judgment call during a delicate heart surgery.
It takes a
If it is, it reveals how utterly clueless our legislators really are
At 15:09 3/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595
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Tomas Daniska
systems engineer
Tronet Computer Networks
Plynarenska 5, 829 75 Bratislava, Slovakia
tel: +421 2 58224111, fax: +421 2 58224199
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 09:35:09AM -0600, Jack Bates allegedly wrote:
> Without looking it up (a little busy), there should be a Definitions
> section defining communications service provider. Is the bill aimed at
> ISP's or is it aimed at the actual Telco?
Also "a communication".
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steven M. Be
llovin" writes:
>
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steven M. B
>e
>llovin" writes:
>>
>>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Toma
>s
>>
>>Daniska" writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595
>>>
>>
>>freedom-to-tinker.com, which is the so
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
:Now, given the anti-NAT and anti-VPN tendencies of some
:broadband ISPs, I'm not necessarily thrilled, but it's not quite the
:same as was originally suggested.
Selling bandwidth is like selling water in that it isn't terribly
profitable unless
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jack Bates writes:
>Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>> but there may be session state -- it's bill HB 2121) only criminalizes the
>> conduct if it's done "with intent to harm or defraud a communications
>> service provider". Now, given the anti-NAT and anti-VPN tendencie
Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
but there may be session state -- it's bill HB 2121) only criminalizes the
conduct if it's done "with intent to harm or defraud a communications
service provider". Now, given the anti-NAT and anti-VPN tendencies of some
broadband ISPs, I'm not necessarily thrilled, but it
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steven M. Be
llovin" writes:
>
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tomas
>
>Daniska" writes:
>>
>>
>>http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595
>>
>
>freedom-to-tinker.com, which is the source cited by your link, is
>indeed Ed Felten's. And I trust Ed.
>
It's been
> >http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595
While they are at it, it would be nice if a carefully applied lobbying
could transform that into something that made more sense security-wise.
After dealing with one too many DDoS attacks, I would gladly mantain
storage of a few week
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tomas
Daniska" writes:
>
>
>http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595
>
freedom-to-tinker.com, which is the source cited by your link, is
indeed Ed Felten's. And I trust Ed.
--Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb (me)
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595
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Tomas Daniska
systems engineer
Tronet Computer Networks
Plynarenska 5, 829 75 Bratislava, Slovakia
tel: +421 2 58224111, fax: +421 2 58224199
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