On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
> The traffic is too short and bursty to be of any benefit, even when you
> can successfully filter it so that no other operations are impacted.
I think that would be the biggest trick in order to even ratios - keep
other services unaffected.
I th
> > Maybe I am exceptionally naive, but are DDOSes *REALLY* that consistent
> > between providers to affect month-over-month or quarterly ratios?
>
> yes. because if you're a small provider then you only need a small flow
> to balance yourself. and the 95th percentile cuts both ways.
Depending
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:38:06PM -0800, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Deepak Jain wrote:
> > Maybe I am exceptionally naive, but are DDOSes *REALLY* that consistent
> > between providers to affect month-over-month or quarterly ratios?
>
> I know a webhoster/provider who con
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Deepak Jain wrote:
> Maybe I am exceptionally naive, but are DDOSes *REALLY* that consistent
> between providers to affect month-over-month or quarterly ratios?
I know a webhoster/provider who consistently takes in 1Mpps DOS attacks,
and I'm presuming that the 95th percentile
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:
>
> support transit-exchange, there really ought to be a market for suck.
apparently there is a huge market for suck
>
> (anybody have any guesses how much of the current ddos load is driven by
> ratio concerns? that is, now that we know spammers are
> Ahh, but are you saying that current blow-based transit pricing is stable?
ah. no. current transit pricing is way way lower than a non-bankrupt
provider can afford to do it for on an ROI that the public markets would
find worthy of their praise. eventually, all kinds of flies are going
to hi
> my guess is that when isp's start paying customers for suck in order to
> balance their own ratios or to upset other people's ratios, that it will
> stabilize at about 10% of current blow-based transit pricing. and that
> there will all of a sudden be a lot more ddos'ing, fly-by-night crawlers,
i'm sure search engines like google or altavista or microsoft or yahoo
would happily charge you less for suck than your peers/transits would
(like to) change you for blow. with transit-exchange businesses coming
into existence, and with older peering-exchange businesses willing to
support transit
DoS yourself?
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, matthew zeier wrote:
> Higher powers have decided our 95/5 traffic slit needs to move closer to
> 60/40 (transit pricing).
>
> I'm looking for legitimate ways to generate a significant amount of pull
> traffic, including partnerships with Southern California I
Higher powers have decided our 95/5 traffic slit needs to move closer to
60/40 (transit pricing).
I'm looking for legitimate ways to generate a significant amount of pull
traffic, including partnerships with Southern California ISPs.
Thanks.
--
matthew zeier - "Curiosity is a willing, a proud
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