Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-18 Thread David Ulevitch
Stephen Wilcox wrote: On 17 Oct 2007, at 20:55, Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. On Oct 17, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Stephen Wilcox wrote: well.. the problem of course is that you pull in the traffic from the aggregate transit prefix which costs you $$$ but then you

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-18 Thread Stephen Wilcox
On 17 Oct 2007, at 20:55, Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. On Oct 17, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Stephen Wilcox wrote: well.. the problem of course is that you pull in the traffic from the aggregate transit prefix which costs you $$$ but then you offload it to the custome

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-17 Thread Bradley Urberg Carlson
Thanks for the suggestions. On Oct 17, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Stephen Wilcox wrote: well.. the problem of course is that you pull in the traffic from the aggregate transit prefix which costs you $$$ but then you offload it to the customer via a peering link for which you are not being paid A bigg

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-17 Thread Stephen Wilcox
On 15 Oct 2007, at 03:49, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 15-okt-2007, at 7:09, Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: There is a customer's customer who is advertising more-specifics at the IX (and using a different source AS, to boot). I can think of a couple ways to prevent hearing these, but

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-16 Thread Keegan . Holley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/15/2007 01:09:08 AM: > > I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to > the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX > and via my own transit customers. I normally use localpref to prefer > customer advertisements o

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-16 Thread Gaurab Raj Upadhaya
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: > > I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the > MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via > my own transit customers. I normally use localpref to prefer cust

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread John Payne
On Oct 15, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Mike Leber wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via my own transit customers. I normally use local

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Mike Leber
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: > I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to > the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX > and via my own transit customers. I normally use localpref to prefer > customer advertisements ove

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007, Wolfgang Tremmel wrote: > >I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due > >to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at > >the IX and via my own transit customers. I normally use localpref > >to prefer customer advertisements o

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Andy Davidson
On 15 Oct 2007, at 13:33, John Payne wrote: To answer the OP's question I'd be looking at manually filtering the more specifics if they are also sending the aggregates through the IX. The customer's customer is still going to see *your* routes via the MLP, unless (without knowing what e

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Che-Hoo CHENG
The problem is you're announcing the aggregate prefixes of your customer's customers to your upstream providers and the traffic from your upstreams to those networks will be routed through the IX (instead of your customer connection) because of the longer prefix effect and so you're not charging th

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread John Payne
On Oct 15, 2007, at 7:41, Wolfgang Tremmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cix.net> wrote: Am 15.10.2007 um 07:09 schrieb Bradley Urberg Carlson: I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via my

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Wolfgang Tremmel
Am 15.10.2007 um 07:09 schrieb Bradley Urberg Carlson: I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via my own transit customers. I normally use localpref to prefer customer advertisements o

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 15-okt-2007, at 7:09, Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: There is a customer's customer who is advertising more-specifics at the IX (and using a different source AS, to boot). I can think of a couple ways to prevent hearing these, but thought I should ask for suggestions first. What exact

more-specifics via IX

2007-10-14 Thread Bradley Urberg Carlson
I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via my own transit customers. I normally use localpref to prefer customer advertisements over peers' advertisements. There is a customer's customer w