Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 12:41:23 EDT, Ted Fischer said: > >Go read this: http://65.246.255.51/rfc/rfc3675.txt > > > >And ask yourself (a) why did that URL work at all, and (b) whether censoring > >via top-level domain is likely to work. > > As an interesting side note, my e-mail client (Eudora) h

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-03 Thread Ted Fischer
At 11:28 AM 7/3/2005, Valdis Kletnieks wrote: On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:44:56 +0200, Peter Dambier said: > http://xn--8pru44h.xn--55qx5d/ > > Try to see their homepage! I can't help it if they disregard RFC2826... > ICANN does not want them. > They dont want ICANN either. This doesn't change t

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-03 Thread codewarrior
On Jul 3, 2005, at 5:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:44:56 +0200, Peter Dambier said: http://xn--8pru44h.xn--55qx5d/ Try to see their homepage! I can't help it if they disregard RFC2826... we talk about controlling nameservers right? So why should they care abo

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:44:56 +0200, Peter Dambier said: > http://xn--8pru44h.xn--55qx5d/ > > Try to see their homepage! I can't help it if they disregard RFC2826... > ICANN does not want them. > They dont want ICANN either. This doesn't change the technical issues in rfc2826. > European ISPs

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-03 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Peter Dambier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > European ISPs and Asian ISPs do change to the Public-Root because their > customers need to send emails to each other. Curiously enough their is > no SPAM on Public-Root email addresses. I thought the spammers were > located in Asia and Europe only? C

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 03/07/05, Peter Dambier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://xn--8pru44h.xn--55qx5d/ > > Try to see their homepage! I cant. > You dont do bussiness with them? > But you are wearing their shoes. > And who controls ICANN? I am afraid they are out of control - reading > their mailing lists a

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-03 Thread Peter Dambier
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On 03/07/05, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Already entire nations are dropping ICANN. China for one and now Turkey. You know something .. the turks, or at least one minor government / industry department there, seem to have been drinking

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 03/07/05, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Already entire nations are dropping ICANN. China for one and now > Turkey. > You know something .. the turks, or at least one minor government / industry department there, seem to have been drinking the public root koolaid. >

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-02 Thread John Palmer (NANOG Acct)
access full article) - Original Message - From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Levine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: Re: NTIA will control t

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 2 Jul 2005 11:56:07 -, John Levine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ICANN's leadership has long claimed and probably believed that the DOC > would eventually cut them free. Of course other governments have never > been thrilled that the root belongs to the US Gov't, but treatment of > countr

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-02 Thread John Levine
>Is this operational or dross? Both, but mainly it's a one page press release from the Dep't of Commerce: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/USDNSprinciples_06302005.htm ICANN exists because of a DOC contact which you can find at http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/ ICANN's le

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-01 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 03:28:23PM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > > Basically it sounds like the U.S. Gov't (NTIA)/U.S. Dept of Commerce > > will take back control of the root name servers from ICANN at some > > point. > > no. they never let go of it. a change to a nameserver for an > african cct

re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-01 Thread Frank Coluccio
I received the following from a fellow forum member who happens to be living in Germany after I posted the same story, elsewhere: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21469219 ORSN (European Open Root Server Network) http://www.orsn.net/ The Open Root Server Network (ORSN) is worki

Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?

2005-07-01 Thread Randy Bush
> Basically it sounds like the U.S. Gov't (NTIA)/U.S. Dept of Commerce > will take back control of the root name servers from ICANN at some > point. no. they never let go of it. a change to a nameserver for an african cctld has to go through the us dept of commerce. they are saving us from t