Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-12-04 Thread Edward B. Dreger
CO Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:57:58 -0600 (CST) CO From: Chris Owen CO However, I do think Akamai would be better off getting their issues with CO their replacement boxes straightened out. I agree that we get value for CO having the boxes on our network (and so do they lets not forget). *shrug*

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-29 Thread Gadi Evron
To quote a science fiction story I'm fond of, efficiency depends on what you want to effish. --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb Sci-fi injection! (marking another beer owed) Gadi.

trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Christian Kuhtz
On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Vinny Abello wrote: I know the idea is to have very cheap boxes in clusters, but I wonder how much they're paying in shipping for replacing the cheap hardware. Never underestimate the amount of airbills that can be paid with KISS strategy. Anything else is

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Christian Kuhtz wrote: I know the idea is to have very cheap boxes in clusters, but I wonder how much they're paying in shipping for replacing the cheap hardware. Never underestimate the amount of airbills that can be paid with KISS strategy. Yep,

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Christian Kuhtz wrote: I know the idea is to have very cheap boxes in clusters, but I wonder how much they're paying in shipping for replacing the cheap hardware. Never underestimate the amount of airbills

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Christian Kuhtz wrote: Never underestimate the amount of airbills that can be paid with KISS strategy. Especially since Akamai doesn't pay for truck rolls and man hours to get the replacements done onsite. -- Mikael Abrahamssonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Deepak Jain
Never underestimate the amount of airbills that can be paid with KISS strategy. Especially since Akamai doesn't pay for truck rolls and man hours to get the replacements done onsite. I'm sorry, isn't that exactly what an airbill *is* paying for -- to get the equipment on site? The

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Chris Owen wrote: As far as I can tell the only thing that will get a box replaced is if it can't be booted/pinged. We've pointed out dead CPU fans before (even on the incoming replacement boxes) and they've never seemed to care. If it runs it runs. If it doesn't they

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Chris Owen
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Deepak Jain wrote: Never underestimate the amount of airbills that can be paid with KISS strategy. Especially since Akamai doesn't pay for truck rolls and man hours to get the replacements done onsite. I'm sorry, isn't that exactly what an airbill *is* paying for

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Petri Helenius
Chris Owen wrote: It isn't just that they are wasting my time. They are also wasting their own time. It's the overall lack efficiency that bothers me ;-] Don't worry, it wont take long until google parks their datacenter-in-a-container outside at the fiber junction and the content

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Randy Bush
It isn't just that they are wasting my time. They are also wasting their own time. It's the overall lack efficiency that bothers me ;-] i suspect you have a datapoint on how they're doing financially. they ain't stoopid. they'll deal with it when the cost/benefit gets high enough on their

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Pete Templin
Deepak Jain wrote: If that model doesn't work for the ISP in question, they should ask Akamai to pull their gear. And hopefully they'll (someday) send servers in my direction - is their minimum criteria creeping upwards at the same rate as overall Internet traffic did in the late 90s? pt

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Randy Bush writes: It isn't just that they are wasting my time. They are also wasting their own time. It's the overall lack efficiency that bothers me ;-] i suspect you have a datapoint on how they're doing financially. they ain't stoopid. they'll deal with it

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Deepak Jain wrote: I'm sorry, isn't that exactly what an airbill *is* paying for -- to get the equipment on site? They also frequently need boxes power cycled. It got to be so frequent that we gave them a remote reboot switch for all their gear and told them how to

Re: trollage (Re: Akamai server reliability)

2005-11-28 Thread Simon Lyall
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Pete Templin wrote: And hopefully they'll (someday) send servers in my direction - is their minimum criteria creeping upwards at the same rate as overall Internet traffic did in the late 90s? The impression I got was they originally scattered their machines to everyone