Re: Dead Thread (Re: Security gain from NAT) (fwd)

2007-06-06 Thread william(at)elan.net
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Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff

2007-06-06 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 5-jun-2007, at 4:29, Adrian Chadd wrote: Don't forget that the reason NAT works to the degree that it does today is because of all the workarounds in applications or protocol- specific workarounds in the NATs (ALGs). In IPv6, you don't have any of this stuff, so IPv6 NAT gets you nowhere

Re: Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff)

2007-06-06 Thread Sam Stickland
Nathan Ward wrote: On 5/06/2007, at 9:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posit that a screen door does not provide any security. Any is too strong a word. For people living in an area with malaria-carrying mosquitoes, that screen door may be more important for

Re: Security gain from NAT

2007-06-06 Thread Nathan Ward
On 7/06/2007, at 3:59 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Thus spake Roger Marquis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I, for one, give up. No matter what you say I will never implement NAT, and you may or may not implement it if people make boxes that support it. Most of the rest of us will continue to listen to both