where the wizards stay up late

2007-06-26 Thread Travis H.
Not sure if this guy is still with us, but wanted to read "Confessions of a Hearing-Impaired Engineer", if anyone has a copy. BTW, "Where Wizards Stay up Late" is an entertaining book about the origins of the ARPAnet. It even has some of the first (hand-drawn, natch) network diagrams... Apparent

Re: who was the last legit spammer?

2007-06-26 Thread Travis H.
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 03:07:26PM +, Alexander Harrowell wrote: > > Define "legit" spammer. Do you mean one who was just advertising a > real product, albeit in an objectionable fashion, as opposed to those > who are trying to spread malware or commit fraud? Actually, I meant that they weren

XO / Level 3 connectivity issues?

2007-06-26 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo
Is anyone aware of problems between XO and Level3? I have a VOIP provider telling me that there are problems in Chicago that are affecting VOIP call quality when the IP phone endpoint is on XO and the provider's VOIP switch is on Level3 (symptoms are choppy voice quality with remote calle

Re: AUP/autoresponders, rehashed

2007-06-26 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jun 26, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Bill Nash wrote: Counterpoint, you're suggesting what will ultimately denigrate into an assault on mistakes and absent-mindedness, as people with nothing better to do make periodic examples of people who screw up. I didn't much care for the original proposal. I

Re: AUP/autoresponders, rehashed

2007-06-26 Thread Bill Nash
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Jo Rhett wrote: > >I think someone suggests the above everytime a discussion comes up. In the > >spirit of "a very simple solution", everyone can be their own dictator of > >their own mailbox -- they don't need to protect the rest of the list, or > >develop a consensus for ch

Re: AUP/autoresponders, rehashed

2007-06-26 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jun 26, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Deepak Jain wrote: That said, a very simple way to handle it is to separate your mail (whether its procmail, a separate mailbox, a + rule in your name, or what have you) to automatically catch these "horrible" autoresponders into a box that doesn't clutter your

Re: AUP/autoresponders, rehashed

2007-06-26 Thread Alex Pilosov
[please note - followups are set to nanog-futures, this doesn't belong to nanog-list. respect the reply-to header and reply to nanog-futures ] On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Deepak Jain wrote: > However, a tremendous amount of time is wasted just by discussing these > sorts of "small" problems. Plenty of

Re: AUP/autoresponders, rehashed

2007-06-26 Thread Deepak Jain
Jo Rhett wrote: On Jun 12, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: You act on an issue that affects about 5 people once every 2 years and you ignore the massive overload on the list of off topic posting? While I mostly agree with what you are saying, it doesn't hurt to be honest about re

Re: AUP/autoresponders, rehashed

2007-06-26 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jun 12, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: You act on an issue that affects about 5 people once every 2 years and you ignore the massive overload on the list of off topic posting? While I mostly agree with what you are saying, it doesn't hurt to be honest about reality here. I get