[Nanog] VoIP over Asymmetric routing

2008-04-20 Thread Kim Onnel
Hello, We are going to roll out a network to carry VoIP only, between the P routers, there will be 3xOC3 links. Each site has 2xPEs, PE1 is connected to the P router in the local premises with 10GE and PE2 is connected with 2xOC3s to remote P sites for backup incase local P fails. VoIP is going

Re: [Nanog] Cogent Router dropping packets

2008-04-20 Thread Paul Wall
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 7:26 PM, manolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some things just never change at cogent.. fought them for months way > back when to get me off their infamous 2 bgp peer setup after many an > outage due to this setup, they finally put us on a single bgp session > but it took

Re: [Nanog] ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010

2008-04-20 Thread Randy Bush
Paul Wall wrote: >> They also tended to manually handle routing decisions as opposed to >> letting the IGP handle it. > Likewise, I'd be interested in implementation specifics of how a > network of AT&T's caliber could implement backbone redundancy and TE > with static routing. atm-2, circuitzi

Re: [Nanog] ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010

2008-04-20 Thread Paul Wall
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my experience, ATT(SBC at that time) hit over its effective capacity > (over 50% average utilization, and therefore no redundancy) around 2001. Sounds like you're talking about 7018, not 7132 (SBC), and even 7018 is d

Re: [Nanog] ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010

2008-04-20 Thread Paul Ferguson
t.aspx > For what it's worth, I agree with Ryan Paul's summary of the issues here: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080420-analysis-att-fear-mongering-o n-net-capacity-mostly-fud.html ...but take it at face value. $.02, - - ferg -BEGIN P

Re: [Nanog] ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010

2008-04-20 Thread Scott Weeks
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Scott Weeks wrote: > Does anybody know what the basis for Mr. Cicconi's claims were (if > they even had a basis at all)? Have there been an second reporting sources, or does anyone have a Youtube link of Mr

Re: [Nanog] ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010

2008-04-20 Thread David Conrad
Not to defend AT&T or the statement regarding capacity, but... On Apr 20, 2008, at 4:16 AM, Jorge Amodio wrote: > The article is full of gaffes, just to mention one "Internet exists, > thanks > to the infrastructure provided by a group of mostly private > companies". I suspect this was refere

Re: [Nanog] ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010

2008-04-20 Thread Ted Fischer
All, Interesting AT&T project ... the IP (and voice) world according to AT&T, from a New York State of Mind: http://senseable.mit.edu/nyte/index.html Ted At 03:16 PM 4/19/2008, Sean wrote: >On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Scott Weeks wrote: > > Does anybody know what the basis for Mr. Cicconi's clai