[NANOG] Erik Aran/SW/MTY/TELINOR is out of the office.

2008-04-24 Thread earan
I will be out of the office starting 23/04/2008 and will not return until 12/05/2008. Estoy fuera de la ciudad para cualquier cuestion de Conectividad de Dx, Favor de contactar a Javier Rios al 81298278 o Ricardo Sanches ext 8111 ___ NANOG mailing li

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW

2008-04-24 Thread Scott Weeks
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perhaps we should have a list rule that anyone silly enough to be infected and spew spam gets their posting privs removed until they beg forgiveness? Publicly! >;-) scott

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than costWOW

2008-04-24 Thread Barry Shein
If we could arrange to see some samples in person I'm sure I could rustle up some other list members to meet you with our, um, checkbooks... -- -Barry Shein The World | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW

2008-04-24 Thread Tim Yocum
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Justas Poderys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks god we're not receiving out-of-office replies via ml. > > Logan, Robert wrote: > > Is this what the mail list has come to? All, We're aware of the issue, and we'll work with Merit to fix it. Please refrain from

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW

2008-04-24 Thread Raymond L. Corbin
Oops I stand corrected...I got it too :-x -Ray -Original Message- From: Raymond L. Corbin Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:25 PM To: 'Logan, Robert'; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW I haven't gotten that ye

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW

2008-04-24 Thread Raymond L. Corbin
I haven't gotten that yet...and I don't see it in my spam filters...what do the headers show? -Ray -Original Message- From: Logan, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:18 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW

2008-04-24 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Bill Nash wrote: > Express invitations for blackholing from the spammers. =) Honestly, I hadn't thought of that. This could be spun as a feature. Have your spam filters feed a script which null-routes the URLs Nah, too easy to abuse, but still. :) Perhaps

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost…WOW

2008-04-24 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
Can I get a size 43 wide with steel toes suitable for kicking routers somewhere proximal to the red buttons? In a comfortable office casual subdued pastel? nanog@nanog.org wrote: > Ladies and Gentlemen, Get Ready for.. > > Thought I would let you know about the Fashion Footwear SPRING Sale! >

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW

2008-04-24 Thread Justas Poderys
Thanks god we're not receiving out-of-office replies via ml. Logan, Robert wrote: > Is this what the mail list has come to? > > -Original Message- > From: nanog@nanog.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:06 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Never seen before!

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] attempt to capture nominet board

2008-04-24 Thread Michal Krsek
>> Yes strongly agreed and Randy thanks for raising this here. > > as i recall, CIRA, the Canadian equivilent of Nominet, a few years ago, > made > some serious changes to its structure/by-laws/etc in order to > prevent/reduce > the possibility of a similar "take-over". > > other registries might

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW

2008-04-24 Thread Bill Nash
Express invitations for blackholing from the spammers. =) - billn On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Logan, Robert wrote: > Is this what the mail list has come to? > > -Original Message- > From: nanog@nanog.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:06 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org >

Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW

2008-04-24 Thread Logan, Robert
Is this what the mail list has come to? -Original Message- From: nanog@nanog.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:06 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost...WOW Ladies and Gentlemen, Get R

Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost�WOW

2008-04-24 Thread nanog
Ladies and Gentlemen, Get Ready for.. Thought I would let you know about the Fashion Footwear SPRING Sale! Men and Women Designer Shoes, Heels, Sandals and Boots, All Half-OFF, Buy Direct, Forget Department Store Prices, Get Exclusive 2008 D&G, Gucci, Versace, Prada, Chanel, Christian Dior, Dsq

[NANOG] [Fwd: isotf outtages]

2008-04-24 Thread virendra rode //
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FYI -/ - Original Message Subject: isotf outtages Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:41:42 -0500 From: RVaughn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: virendra rode // <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Matthew,

Re: [NANOG] Comcast (AS 7922 -> 33491) issues?

2008-04-24 Thread Ren Provo
Hi Darrell, This should be resolved shortly. -ren On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Darrell Hyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm seeing tons of availability issues to networks with AS paths ending > in "7922 33491". A couple of the prefixes in question are 98.214.0.0/15, > 69.137.240.0/20, 73.1

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]

2008-04-24 Thread Laird Popkin
Interesting discussion. Comments below: On Apr 24, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Eric Osterweil wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Keith O'Neill wrote: > >> The iTrackers just helps the nodes to talk to each other in a more >> efficient way, all the iT

[NANOG] Comcast (AS 7922 -> 33491) issues?

2008-04-24 Thread Darrell Hyde
I'm seeing tons of availability issues to networks with AS paths ending in "7922 33491". A couple of the prefixes in question are 98.214.0.0/15, 69.137.240.0/20, 73.117.0.0/16, and 67.175.0.0/16. I spoke with Abovenet earlier this morning - they say its due to L3 suppressing those announcements t

[NANOG] isotf.org / outages

2008-04-24 Thread Matthew Walker
Can someone please recommend an alternate outages list, as it appears isoft.org is no longer functional. Thank You. ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]

2008-04-24 Thread Eric Osterweil
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Keith O'Neill wrote: > The iTrackers just helps the nodes to talk to each other in a more > efficient way, all the iTracker does is talk to another p2p tracker > and > is used for network topology, has no caching or fil

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]

2008-04-24 Thread Michael Holstein
> Or, everybody can put their heads together, make something that > works for ISPs operationally, and give the end users faster > downloads. The whole question is how to multicast content over > the Internet in the most cost effective way. > This will work as long as the "optimization" strateg

Re: [NANOG] P2P traffic optimization Was: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]

2008-04-24 Thread Laird Popkin
Replies below: - Laird Popkin, CTO, Pando Networks mobile: 646/465-0570 - Original Message - From: "Christopher Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Laird Popkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Alexander Harrowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Doug Pasko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wedn

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]

2008-04-24 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Mike Gonnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This idea is what I am concerned about. Until the whole copyright mess > gets sorted out, wouldn't these iTracker supernodes be a goldmine of > logs for copyright lawyers? They would have a great deal of > information ab

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] attempt to capture nominet board

2008-04-24 Thread Jim Mercer
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 03:01:31PM +0100, Neil J. McRae wrote: > Yes strongly agreed and Randy thanks for raising this here. as i recall, CIRA, the Canadian equivilent of Nominet, a few years ago, made some serious changes to its structure/by-laws/etc in order to prevent/reduce the possibility of

Re: [NANOG] support.microsoft.com?

2008-04-24 Thread Colin Alston
Ben O'Hara wrote: > Fixed it with a > > # Fix support.microsoft.com by removing > Accept-Encoding header > acl support.microsoft.com dstdomain > support.microsoft.com > header_access Accept-Encoding deny

Re: [NANOG] support.microsoft.com?

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Stone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Bjørn Mork wrote: > Not only that. They are actually redirecting to a 404 not found page > based on User-Agent. Compare these two requests: > > The site is designed specifically NOT to work except if you've got an > approved browser. I guess they

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] attempt to capture nominet board

2008-04-24 Thread Neil J. McRae
Yes strongly agreed and Randy thanks for raising this here. -Original Message- From: Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 24 April 2008 11:30 To: North American Network Operators Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Nanog] attempt to capture nominet board dear uk sisters, brothers, and und

Re: [NANOG] support.microsoft.com?

2008-04-24 Thread Bjørn Mork
Colin Alston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone else noticed strange things with support.microsoft.com? > > If I wget it ('http://support.microsoft.com/') from anywhere, I get an > index.html fine. > > If I use lynx, I get gibberish (gzipped content, without a correct header) > > If I use F

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]

2008-04-24 Thread michael.dillon
> Won't this approach (using a ISP-managed intermediate) > ultimately end up being co-opted by the lawyers for the > various industry "interest groups" > and thus be ignored by the p2p users? To bring this back to network operations, it doesn't much matter what lawyers and end users do. The bot

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]

2008-04-24 Thread Keith O'Neill
The iTrackers just helps the nodes to talk to each other in a more efficient way, all the iTracker does is talk to another p2p tracker and is used for network topology, has no caching or file information or user information.. Keith O'Neill Pando Networks Mike Gonnason wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24,

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]

2008-04-24 Thread Mike Gonnason
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Michael Holstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ISP's have been very clear that they regard their network maps as being > proprietary for many good reasons. The approach that P4P takes is to have an > intermediate server (which we call an iTracker) that process

Re: [NANOG] support.microsoft.com?

2008-04-24 Thread Jutta Zalud
Marshall Eubanks wrote on 24. April 2008 at 15:07: > It looks to me like they are doing file compression on the site. > (E.g., there seems to be an index.html.gz file there.) > This practice is described in "High Performance Web Sites" and other > fine publications. I > would be curious to kno

Re: [NANOG] support.microsoft.com?

2008-04-24 Thread Jack Bates
Colin Alston wrote: > If I use Firefox or IE behind some Squid proxies in certain places, it > doesn't understand the content either. IE in particular using HTTP 1.1 by default, but has HTTP 1.1 via proxy turned off. It's a check box in the advanced tab. Also required when your proxy does it's

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]

2008-04-24 Thread Michael Holstein
> ISP's have been very clear that they regard their network maps as being > proprietary for many good reasons. The approach that P4P takes is to have an > intermediate server (which we call an iTracker) that processes the network > maps and provides abstracted guidance (lists of IP prefixes and

Re: [NANOG] support.microsoft.com?

2008-04-24 Thread Ben O'Hara
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Colin Alston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone else noticed strange things with support.microsoft.com? > > If I wget it ('http://support.microsoft.com/') from anywhere, I get an > index.html fine. > > If I use lynx, I get gibberish (gzipped content, without a

Re: [NANOG] support.microsoft.com?

2008-04-24 Thread Marc Manthey
Am 24.04.2008 um 14:47 schrieb Colin Alston: > Has anyone else noticed strange things with support.microsoft.com? > > If I wget it ('http://support.microsoft.com/') from anywhere, I get an > index.html fine. > > If I use lynx, I get gibberish (gzipped content, without a correct > header) > > If

Re: [NANOG] support.microsoft.com?

2008-04-24 Thread Marshall Eubanks
It looks to me like they are doing file compression on the site. (E.g., there seems to be an index.html.gz file there.) This practice is described in "High Performance Web Sites" and other fine publications. I would be curious to know if this is a problem with Lynx or with their site setup.

[NANOG] support.microsoft.com?

2008-04-24 Thread Colin Alston
Has anyone else noticed strange things with support.microsoft.com? If I wget it ('http://support.microsoft.com/') from anywhere, I get an index.html fine. If I use lynx, I get gibberish (gzipped content, without a correct header) If I use Firefox or IE behind some Squid proxies in certain place

[Nanog] attempt to capture nominet board

2008-04-24 Thread Randy Bush
dear uk sisters, brothers, and undecideds, if you are a nomintet voting member or know someone who is, i strongly encourage you to read these two documents, and particularly