[NANOG] Comcast latency

2008-04-29 Thread mack
Has anyone else noticed a significant increase in latency within Comcast's network? -- LR Mack McBride Network Administrator Alpha Red, Inc. ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

[NANOG] nanog list is now archived in MarkMail

2008-04-29 Thread Wayne Feick
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Re: [NANOG] would ip6 help us safeing energy ?

2008-04-29 Thread Marc Manthey
Am 29.04.2008 um 18:31 schrieb Jorge Amodio: > besides the multicast argument, hi Jorge , all ok, i was talking about a "campus" installation imagine you want to broadcast a live event so 10.000 unicast streams and 10.000 multicast stream for example. from what toni replyed , you need less h

Re: [NANOG] Purpose of Internap's PNET AS22212

2008-04-29 Thread Max Clark
It's actually very easy to explain. The InterNAP Flow Control (FCP) was designed to route traffic via the cheapest link available provided the link is within an operating range. Over the years the PNAPs have "preferred" different transit providers based on the underlying contract rate - but what ra

Re: [NANOG] Purpose of Internap's PNET AS22212

2008-04-29 Thread Brandon Palmer
They have a bunch of transit providers they use, PNET is yet another path that they can use. They have enough traffic that goes PNAP <--> PNAP that I presume it would be cheaper to use their own dark fiber or something than to keep paying the other transit providers. >>> Thurber <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-29 Thread Neil J. McRae
Frank, Agreed, the infinera platform is very good also. thanks for he link. Neil. -Original Message- From: Frank Coluccio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 April 2008 20:31 To: NANOG; Neil J. McRae; Frank Coluccio Subject: Re: [NANOG] DWDM ps - a 2007 updated prezo on SURFnet6's DWDM n

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-29 Thread Frank Coluccio
ps - a 2007 updated prezo on SURFnet6's DWDM network presented by Erik-Jan Bos: http://www.ces.net/doc/seminars/cef2007/p/bos.ppt -- On Tue Apr 29 15:05 , Frank Coluccio sent: >re: "the latest CPL technology from Nortel is a real breakthrough, for once a >vendor has listened and understood the

[NANOG] L3's plan was: Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Deepak Jain
> > They will then focus on the "NFL cities" for colocation and only provide > bandwidth/transport/other network services to everyone else. > Can we discuss how ridiculous the "NFL cities" model is? Yes, I get it. NFL cities meet a certain size criteria in terms of business, population, tale

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-29 Thread Frank Coluccio
re: "the latest CPL technology from Nortel is a real breakthrough, for once a vendor has listened and understood the challenges for operators and actively addressed our concerns." When CPL was appeared I found its architecture refreshingly straightforward, as you've also noted, which was best demo

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo
Every indication from talk with former Level3 employees is that they bought Telcove for the metro fiber footprint and the huge 70,000 voice line and data contract with the state of Pennsylvania. Now they are in the process of getting rid of anyone below some internally-set amount of business, i

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Robert Boyle
At 12:08 PM 4/29/2008, you wrote: >The Broadwing Norristown facility is perhaps 25% useda lot of empty >space there. I have no idea what they are thinking...maybe Level 3 has >big plans for it, or wants it shut down, because it's hard to see how it's >profitable at a utilization rate that low.

Re: [NANOG] would ip6 help us safeing energy ?

2008-04-29 Thread Jorge Amodio
> IsnĀ“t this an argument for ip6 / greenip6 ;) aswell ? > besides the multicast argument, ipv6 and the transition to it with dual stacks, etc, etc, afaik will require more horsepower and memory to handle routing info/updates, don't think so it will reduce energy consumption au contraire. one place

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Chris Owen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 29, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Edward B. DREGER wrote: > But the facility Chris referenced is half-full -- at best. Not only > is > space plentiful, but cooling and electrical have plenty of reserve. > The > price still would be reasonable at a h

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread up
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Chris Owen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Deepak Jain wrote: > >> But if you are looking for Level 3 to make any sense, you are going to >> be waiting a long, long, long time with the rest of us. >> >> They have never

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Edward B. DREGER
JA> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:18:07 -0400 JA> From: Joe Abley JA> From recent threads, the increasing price of power and cooling makes JA> me think that colo providers would far rather have half the tenants JA> paying double the price than have to retrofit facilities that are JA> full to meet incr

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Joe Abley
On 29 Apr 2008, at 10:09 , Chris Owen wrote: > It was clear from the conversation that he never considered for a > moment that we might actually pay the new rate. He just assumed we > were gone as soon as it happened. Obviously I don't have a business > degree because I don't understand the bus

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread David Hubbard
From: Chris Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > It was clear from the conversation that he never considered for a > moment that we might actually pay the new rate. He just assumed we > were gone as soon as it happened. Obviously I don't have a business > degree because I don't understand t

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Chris Owen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Deepak Jain wrote: > But if you are looking for Level 3 to make any sense, you are going to > be waiting a long, long, long time with the rest of us. > > They have never successfully "sold" much in their brief history. The

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Deepak Jain
Even if the provision Randy desribes isn't written in there, there is a fair amount of law that supports it. IANAL, but basically you can't agree to something like a price change you have no idea of in advance, so you can't agree to a 3-year term on it, (or 18 months) in advance. But as a prac

Re: [NANOG] Need Hananet Contact

2008-04-29 Thread Randy Epstein
Hello Giuseppe, noc {at} hanaro.com should work. The company is called Hanaro Telecom and their NOC phone number is +82 2 6266-6767. Randy -Original Message- From: Giuseppe Ravasio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:48 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: [NANOG] Need

[NANOG] Need Hananet Contact

2008-04-29 Thread Giuseppe Ravasio
Hi, I'm having troubles accessing Hananet DNS (AS9318) from AS44567. Probably because our IP Address space (93.92 etc etc) was listed in a very old version of Bogon Networks Block List ( http://www.team-cymru.org/?sec=8&opt=25 ) I tried some Hananet Whois Contacts but I haven't had any feedback.

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Randy Epstein
James, There should be a clause in the contract that allows you to cancel services if they change the terms and conditions of the agreement. I know that doesn't help you much, but at least it gives you an out. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S

Re: [NANOG] Level3 not honoring Broadwing contracts?

2008-04-29 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
This sounds fairly accurate, it's all in how the contract is written. Jeff On 4/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In 2006, I signed a 3 year contract with Broadwing for a 1 cabinet > colocation with 6Mbs dedicated for under $1,000/mo. A few weeks ago, > about halfway throug