Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 3 May 2008, Randy Bush wrote: back office software ip and dns management software provisioning tools cpe measurement and monitoring and billing and, of course, backbone and aggregation equipment that can actually handle real ipv6 traffic flows with acls and chocolate syrup. Not

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sat, 3 May 2008, Randy Bush wrote: back office software ip and dns management software provisioning tools cpe measurement and monitoring and billing and, of course, backbone and aggregation equipment that can actually handle real ipv6 traffic flows with acls

[NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread sthaug
Did Youtube not pay their domain bill? % dig @a.gtld-servers.net. ns yotube.com yotube.com. 2D IN NSns1.parked.com. yotube.com. 2D IN NSns2.parked.com. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Sat 03 May 2008, 15:28 CEST]: Did Youtube not pay their domain bill? ^^ % dig @a.gtld-servers.net. ns yotube.com ^ Still early, Steinar? -- Niels. -- ___ NANOG mailing list

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Kipkemoi Kibiego
yotube.com != youtube.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Youtube not pay their domain bill? % dig @a.gtld-servers.net. ns yotube.com yotube.com. 2D IN NSns1.parked.com. yotube.com. 2D IN NSns2.parked.com. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAIL

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread sthaug
Did Youtube not pay their domain bill? ^^ % dig @a.gtld-servers.net. ns yotube.com ^ Still early, Steinar? You're right, clearly insufficient amounts of coffee here... Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Eric Spaeth
Still down either way... === ; DiG 9.2.4 dns1.sjl.youtube.com @a.gtld-servers.net ; (2 servers found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22563 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1,

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Brant I. Stevens
Maybe that block is anycasted? On 5/3/08 9:45 AM, Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dns1.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.201 dns2.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.137 2182 lesson again, probably. after all, microsoft/hotmail/... being borked

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Brant I. Stevens
Never mind. I'll go back to bed now. Maybe that block is anycasted? On 5/3/08 9:45 AM, Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dns1.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.201 dns2.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.137 2182 lesson again, probably.

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Eric Spaeth
If they were anycasted, shouldn't they be reachable from _somewhere_ ? Those servers are dead from the 4 corners of the US that I have resources to use for testing. Brant I. Stevens wrote: Maybe that block is anycasted? ___ NANOG mailing

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread David Coulson
Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end is still advertising the routes. It came back to life for me a few moments ago (via Cogent) and it looks like the routing did not change (there is a bunch of 10/8 stuff in the traceroute). Eric Spaeth wrote: If they were

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Marshall Eubanks
I received a report from a user at 9:46 EDT that they couldn't access youtube, so at least some users were affected. Regards Marshall On May 3, 2008, at 10:25 AM, David Coulson wrote: Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end is still advertising the routes.

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread sthaug
Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end is still advertising the routes. It came back to life for me a few moments ago (via Cogent) and it looks like the routing did not change (there is a bunch of 10/8 stuff in the traceroute). Looks like it's back here.

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Kevin Blackham
We did that with our internally anycasted recursors at my former network. A script withdraws the routes if bind isn't answering. Works great. On 5/3/08, Mike Lewinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Coulson wrote: Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end is

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Randy Bush
Eric Spaeth wrote: If they were anycasted, shouldn't they be reachable from _somewhere_ not if routing problem with the prefix. anycasted prefixes have analogous problem to that described in 2182. need at least two separately routed prefixes or single method of failure. randy

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Geoff Huston
Mike Leber wrote: Since nobody mentioned it yet, there are now less than 1000 days projected until IPv4 exhaustion: http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/ ps. 1000 days assumes no rush, speculation, or hoarding. Do people do that? pps. Of course these are provocative comments for

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread William Warren
That also doesn't take into account how many /8's are being hoarded by organizations that don't need even 25% of that space. Geoff Huston wrote: Mike Leber wrote: Since nobody mentioned it yet, there are now less than 1000 days projected until IPv4 exhaustion:

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
William Warren wrote: That also doesn't take into account how many /8's are being hoarded by organizations that don't need even 25% of that space. which one's would those be? legacy class A address space just isn't that big... Geoff Huston wrote: Mike Leber wrote: Since nobody mentioned

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Let's think smaller. /16 shall we say? Like the /16 here. Originally the SRI / ARPANET SF Bay Packet Radio network that started back in 1977. Now controlled by a shell company belonging to a shell company belonging to a high volume email deployer :)