Re: Used (SONET) equipment sources/lists?

Forrest W. Christian wrote: I'm switching one end of a PtP DS3 to a location which only has fiber to the carrier. As a result, I'm really in need of a Fujitsu FlashWave 4010 or equivalent which can take a sonet-framed OC3 from a carrier and break it out into individual DS3's. So far, my norm

Re: Used (SONET) equipment sources/lists?

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008, Forrest W. Christian wrote: So far, my normal sources of used equipment have come up dry - but most of them really only deal with data networking (cisco) stuff, so it's a bit out of their league.A long time ago (you know, like 100 internet years ago), I used to post the

Re: Used (SONET) equipment sources/lists?

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Forrest W. Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm hoping someone can point me towards a reseller which specializes in this > type of stuff, or another source I've overlooked. I'm going to (slightly) hijack this by saying: if anyone knows of a reseller that speci

Used (SONET) equipment sources/lists?

I'm switching one end of a PtP DS3 to a location which only has fiber to the carrier. As a result, I'm really in need of a Fujitsu FlashWave 4010 or equivalent which can take a sonet-framed OC3 from a carrier and break it out into individual DS3's. So far, my normal sources of used equipment

Re: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

Pretty much no matter who you use, this can easily be done in an hour or so if people really want it to and the right techs are available. If there's a pre-existing agreement, this can go to mere minutes. The setup doesn't take long. it's usually the business stuff that drags it out. On Thu, Oct

Re: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

On 10/2/08, Jean-François Mezei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Question: > > Is it possible to setup an akamai feed in hours once you know your > website is to be swamped ? > > Obviously, the system managers there might not have been warned in > advance that the politicians would place a huge loa

Re: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

William Allen Simpson wrote: > But I can dig and traceroute. I'm pretty sure this isn't an ideal (or > standard conforming) setup. But it shouldn't have been swamped, as seems to > be akamaized. I don't have traceroutes kept, but during that night when Pelosi announced the bill was available f

Re: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

This will be my last response on this despite whatever spin follows. On 2008Oct2, at 4:08 PM, William Allen Simpson wrote: John Schnizlein wrote: I connected the internal network of the US House of Representatives to the Internet when I worked there, and operated it through both Democratic

Re: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

John Schnizlein wrote: I connected the internal network of the US House of Representatives to the Internet when I worked there, and operated it through both Democratic and Republican control. Aha, I wondered who was to blame Of course, my Member was on the Internet before the House, as ME

Re: Outages BOF - NANOG 44 (los angeles).

Hi Virendra, Putting my NANOG Program Committee Member hat on, please work with Joel Jaeggli, also on the NANOG PC. He is moderating a Tools BOF Monday afternoon at 4:30 in the Heinsbergen Room as per http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog44/agenda.php If you are interested in leading an outages sp

Re: how to unsubscribe

It's in the email headers of every recent email from NANOG. ;-) List-Unsubscribe: , hth, -Jim P. On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 15:30, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you unsubscribe from the list? > When I go to t

Re: how to unsubscribe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How do you unsubscribe from the list? > When I go to the nanog site, log in and hit "unsubscribe" but it never sends > me the email to confirm... > What am I doing wrong? > As per the headers generated in the mailing list manager: List-Unsubscribe:

how to unsubscribe

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Re: Google's PUE

On Oct 2, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Daniel Golding wrote: I am really skeptical of this, Patrick. PUE's of between 1.2 and 1.3 - sure. But below 1.2 on an annual basis? And its not even their newest facility. Color me skeptical. I said "NO @*&@#-ing WAY!!!". :) Just presenting info. If someone ha

Outages BOF - NANOG 44 (los angeles).

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Just wondering if there's any interest in meeting up during nanog 44 (los angeles) and sharing your thoughts, challenges or your outages experience in general or would like to simply vent and empty your head. Topics of interest: * Service provi

Re: Google's PUE

On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: Personally, I think only a self-owned DC could get that low. A general purpose DC would have too many inefficiencies since someone like Equinix must have randomly sized cages, routers an

Re: Google's PUE

I am really skeptical of this, Patrick. PUE's of between 1.2 and 1.3 - sure. But below 1.2 on an annual basis? And its not even their newest facility. Color me skeptical. - Dan On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: [#include: boiler-plate apology for operational content] G

Re: remembering Jon Postel: Looking Beyond the Decade

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Tony Varriale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any chance this will be captured (maybe professionally via HD:)? > Unfortunately I cannot be there but would really appreciate being in the > audience. Check www.nanog.org for details surrounding the streams that are availa

Re: remembering Jon Postel: Looking Beyond the Decade

Any chance this will be captured (maybe professionally via HD:)? Unfortunately I cannot be there but would really appreciate being in the audience. tv - Original Message - From: "Rodney Joffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Scott Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "NANOG list" Sent: Thursday

Re: Wall it off, make it go away

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> let's push this stuff back into the nation-states who sponsor >> it and then use treaties to wall it off inside those places. > > Let's not mince words. You want to wall off the Chinese and Russian > Internets because you believe that the reason so much cybercrime

Re: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

Is this really technical discussion of operation of networks? I connected the internal network of the US House of Representatives to the Internet when I worked there, and operated it through both Democratic and Republican control. I never saw any snooping by either party of the network tr

Re: remembering Jon Postel: Looking Beyond the Decade

On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:49 PM, Scott Francis wrote: nice writeup by Mr. Cerf: http://www.circleid.com/posts/ 20081001_remembering_jon_postel_a_decade/ I was not fortunate enough to have known Mr. Postel, but I have developed a deep posthumous respect for the work he did from listening to what

Re: Google's PUE

The datacenter in Atlanta is located in Suwanee which is north of Atlanta. The Building is operated by Quality Technology Services (www.qualitytech.com). I know since they occupy half of the building. -- Brian Raaen Network Engineer On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Alex Ru

RE: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

Are you saying that the house.gov site is not in a large data center with direct fiber connectivity along with many of the other large federal web sites (with alternative hot sites ready to go at a moment's notice, of course)? As someone who has been to different government data centers, I can tell

Re: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 12:41:12AM -0400, Ernie Rubi wrote: > Hi folks, just musing... > > From an ops perspective, wonder just how much traffic caused: > > "This morning, our engineers sounded the alarms ... and we have > installed a digital version of a traffic cop. We enacted stopgaps that

Re: Hey ISC, thanks for providing free wifi to intercage!

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:40, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > How about moving the meta-nanog themes in this thread to >> > nanog-futures, instead of adding to the noise on the main list? >> >> Because nobody reads it? > > Try "because nobody knows that NANOG has a website where you can > simple i

RE: Hey ISC, thanks for providing free wifi to intercage!

> > How about moving the meta-nanog themes in this thread to > > nanog-futures, instead of adding to the noise on the main list? > > Because nobody reads it? Try "because nobody knows that NANOG has a website where you can simple instructions to subscribe to Nanog-futures". For the record, ther

Re: Google's PUE

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:10:37 -0400 From: Marshall Eubanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Google's PUE I am going to attempt to determine our PUE, using the methodology described in the Google paper. One mus

Re: Hey ISC, thanks for providing free wifi to intercage!

Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: Joe Abley wrote: How about moving the meta-nanog themes in this thread to nanog-futures, instead of adding to the noise on the main list? Because nobody reads it? You are mistaken, sir. There are plenty that read it, and meta discussions belong there. --

Reading NANOG-Futures [was: Hey ISC, thanks for providing free wifi to intercage!]

On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: Joe Abley wrote: How about moving the meta-nanog themes in this thread to nanog- futures, instead of adding to the noise on the main list? Because nobody reads it? I've been called a lot of things, but I can't seem to remember bein

Re: Hey ISC, thanks for providing free wifi to intercage!

Joe Abley wrote: How about moving the meta-nanog themes in this thread to nanog-futures, instead of adding to the noise on the main list? Because nobody reads it?

Re: Hey ISC, thanks for providing free wifi to intercage!

On 2 Oct 2008, at 08:47, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: I'm sure I'll get a nastygram from the kabal for this, but just out of curiosity, why is talking about broken network protocols and other stuff "off topic", but talking mindlessly and endlessly about mindless and pointless drivel (qu

Re: Hey ISC, thanks for providing free wifi to intercage!

Noel Butler wrote: [nothing worth having been forwarded several times] I'm sure I'll get a nastygram from the kabal for this, but just out of curiosity, why is talking about broken network protocols and other stuff "off topic", but talking mindlessly and endlessly about mindless and pointless

Re: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM, William Allen Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The clerk and primary DNS systems seem to be 143.231.x.x/16, with diverse > paths. The secondary NS is on 143.228.x.x/16, so it seems to be > reasonably well done. Not talking about network redundancy here .. but I

Re: 143.228.0.0/16 and house.gov

Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:17 PM, chris neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Give me a break. You're telling me the White House's mail servers are even on the same network as their web servers? What, is this 1997? Well, I do know that there's two ways you can contact y

[NANOG-announce] Election reminder - charter amendments

Hello everyone, Please take a moment to look at the current charter amendment proposals for the October ballot at: http://www.nanog.org/charter/ If you have comments on the proposals, please post them on the nanog-futures list or send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the next few days. The Steeri