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--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
No, they are both victims. If I inject a path that
purports
there is an edge between two networks which are engaged in
a bitter
dispute, (i'll use cogent sprint as an example) -
_1239_174_ that may
create a
On Jan 13, 2009, at 6:34 AM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote:
On 2009-01-13, at 00:05, Paul Wall wrote:
Also, I'd agree
announcing other peoples' ASNs,
How do you announce an ASN?
Clearly it means to use someone else's ASN without authorization in a
way that is not intended by the
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@eeph.com wrote:
On Jan 13, 2009, at 6:34 AM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote:
On 2009-01-13, at 00:05, Paul Wall wrote:
Also, I'd agree
announcing other peoples' ASNs,
How do you announce an ASN?
Clearly it means to use
On Jan 13, 2009, at 11:53 AM, David Barak wrote:
--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
No, they are both victims. If I inject a path that
purports
there is an edge between two networks which are engaged in
a bitter
dispute, (i'll use cogent sprint as an
4 weeks ago I started getting weekly spam from c...@crossfiremedia.com.
I have been subscribed to this newsletter. Today's spam subject
line is Get to 4GWE and Participate in the Wireless Future, We'll help
pay your way...
The address used is an address I used on NANOG some years back - I
--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:
AS_PATH != identity, and I would not recommend loading
the latter onto the former.
We disagree. When I am researching something, I frequently
look at ASNs in the path to figure out not just where but
who controls the path.
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 08:53:42AM -0800, David Barak wrote:
--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
Does that mean that I hijacked their identiy and forged
it? What level of trust do you place in the AS_PATH for your
routing, debugging and
decision making
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
How can anyone seriously argue the ASN owner is somehow wrong and keep
a straight face? How can anyone else who actually runs a network not
see that as ridiculous?
Speaking purely as an outsider who hasn't had to pull such jack moves
with
On Jan 13, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Filtering and other manipulation happened on your router,
prepending my ASN is putting that information into every router.
That seems to be a serious qualitative difference to me. Do you
disagree?
I think
On Jan 13, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
How can anyone seriously argue the ASN owner is somehow wrong and
keep
a straight face? How can anyone else who actually runs a network not
see that as ridiculous?
Speaking purely as an
If you're on the list, can you contact me? You're being used to send out
spam through your tagline.hushmail.com service, which redirects to arbitrary
URLs either by design or because it's been compromised. Google shows it's
cropping up in list archives all over the place. (
My subscription to NANOG aged 3 months ago and I am receiving this spam too.
And this is my first post. I effectively think that someone might have crack
the email database of the Nanog list.
Reynold
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:41 PM, JC Dill jcdill.li...@gmail.com wrote:
4 weeks ago I started
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 14:43 -0500, Reynold Guerrier wrote:
My subscription to NANOG aged 3 months ago and I am receiving this spam too.
And this is my first post. I effectively think that someone might have crack
the email database of the Nanog list.
Funny; I'm not in that sort of business and
On 13 Jan 2009, at 11:12, Leo Bicknell wrote:
Loop detection kicks in only when there is a loop. You see your
own ASN coming back to you.
In the case we're discussing THERE IS NO LOOP. Someone is mis-using
this feature to control the propagation of routes.
Surely controlling the
On Wed, January 14, 2009 9:01 am, Graeme Fowler wrote:
I think there's far less to this than meets the eye, personally. Just a
predictably asinine salesperson believing that your presence online
provides your consent for bulk email... have you contacted their CEO?
I do have to ask though,
On 13 Jan 2009, at 15:32, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
Were the victim
Heh, if only there was any sign of a victim.
The guy who spent time effort investigating why his AS was misused
announced it here. I'd call that at least a sign.
I'd
Seriously, you believe it's OK to blame the guy whose ASN was spoofed
for spending too long researching it?
I was _literally_ shaking my head when I read that.
--
TTFN,
patrick
Anyone else having trouble reaching plaxo.com? Nothing urgent. I can't
seem to get there via Level 3 or via 360 Networks.
Both die around here:
1023 ms21 ms23 ms te3-2-928.core1.mpt.layer42.net
[69.36.239.137]
Here is a traceroute from 360:
[id:~]$ traceroute 204.15.240.72
It should be pointed out that pre-provisioned AS_Path filters and
prefix-lists would actually be effective at defeating this and
preventing someone who is actually malicious from using this
technique. This is an excellent argument for implementing SIDR...
Finally we agree. Although I
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:33:48 +1300, Mark Foster said:
Strikes me as plain-old 'rude' to be honest... Are the standing official
archives insufficient or something?
There's certainly the Damn, I remember a Nanog posting about this router
issue case - but for that, you probably can't reach the
Um.. no. I can't speak for the others on this list who were
effected like us - but we take this stuff very seriously and
respectively you would too *if* you had a previous legit issue that
appeared to the same **on the surface**. A cautious and indepth look at
this was taken upon us hoping
Yes, via twtelecom.
-Original Message-
From: S. Ryan [mailto:au...@mind.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:43 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Trouble reaching plaxo.com?
Anyone else having trouble reaching plaxo.com? Nothing urgent. I can't
seem to get there via Level 3 or via
Le mardi 13 janvier 2009 à 13:59 -0700, Ray Sanders a écrit :
Not reaching plaxo.com either.
We're on cogent and carpathia.
No prob reaching from the AS6453 backbone.
mh
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 12:42 -0800, S. Ryan wrote:
Anyone else having trouble reaching plaxo.com? Nothing urgent.
A contact asked me to relay that they're back up. The DC had a power issue.
-kc
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 13:55, Michael Hallgren m.hallg...@free.fr wrote:
Le mardi 13 janvier 2009 à 13:59 -0700, Ray Sanders a écrit :
Not reaching plaxo.com either.
We're on cogent and carpathia.
No prob
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