Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 15 May 2009 22:20:28 EDT, David Storandt said: > - Vyatta was proposed as an alternative system, probably best > architected out of the mainstream traffic flows (no hardware > forwarding), say a BGP route reflector or GBE edge router, similar > argument to a 7200/G[1|2]. I can't say I'm fa

Implementing MPLS L2 VPN with Cisco C3750ME

2009-05-15 Thread ty chan
Hi community, I am planning to implement MPLS with C3750ME. As i know C3750ME is full support MPLS viaES port, is it? the IOS is c3750me-i5k91-mz.122-40.SE.bin. The application will be AToM(L2 VPN). Prior to configure MPLS or OSPF, i need to make the link up first. My problem is IP point-to-p

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Alex H. Ryu
ASR is embedded linux solution with Quantum Processor architect if I remember correctly. So it uses IOS-XE, which is a little bit different from standard IOS. If you have some room for budget, you can check Foundry MLX/XMR series router. It is more geared toward Ethernet Service Router. But if y

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Azher Mughal
New architectures might be helpful to achieve such throughput e.g. Myricom pci-e Gen2 10GE cards on new Intel Nehalem based servers. -Azher Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:25:12PM -0400, > valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> Did you check PCI bus bandwidth? T

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:25:12PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > Did you check PCI bus bandwidth? That's probably going to be the biggest > constraint on "a few 10GBE interfaces" if they all get going full blast. > Remember that each packet is going to burn bandwidt

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread David Storandt
So I figure a summary is an order, with a whole array of choices pitched so far... - Sup720-3BXL works for light-duty premium ISP services, decent CPU for BGP and an Ethernet hardware throughput monster. Decent enough for our deployment scenario at least. No obvious solution for the FlexWAN/OC3 bu

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Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Aaron Millisor
Yeah, as long as you're using the NSE-150 and are using features supported by the PXF such that it's not punting to the RP, the performance is really good. --am Brian Feeny wrote: I have used the 7304 in the past and was happy with it. In fact I still have a 6-port DS3 module for a 7304 whi

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Adam LaFountain
> We need true full routes and more CPU horsepower for crunching BGP > (+12 smaller peers + ISIS). OC3 interfaces are going to be mandatory, > one each at two locations. Oh yeah, we're still a larger startup > without endless pockets. Power, rack space, and SmartNet are not > concerns at any locati

Re: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-15 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Thanks everyone for the answers... It came down to a point where, just sticking a male-to-male null modem in between made this work at 9600 =) I guess sometimes solutions are way easier than we may think, heh. Mehmet On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Dylan Ebner wrote: > We use Cyclades (avoce

RE: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Crooks, Sam
You may also take a look at the Cisco ASR1000 line... Supposedly a middle step between 7200 and 7600 router sizing.. > -Original Message- > From: Arie Vayner [mailto:arievay...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:34 PM > To: David Storandt > Cc: NANOG list > Subject: Re: NPE-G2 v

RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 16, Issue 60

2009-05-15 Thread Kesva Naidoo
I would not like to punt another vendor's equipment but have you looked at the MX-480 or MX-960. You would not have to worry about CPU limitations and it is an Internet core box capable of handling all the protocols. Kesva -Original Message- From: nanog-requ...@nanog.org [mailto:nanog-re

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Arie Vayner
David, My 1st advice would be to look also at the other features/capabilities you require, and not just at "feeds and speeds". Some examples for functionality could be: - QOS - NetFlow - DDoS resistance In general the 6500 and the 12000 are hardware based platforms, with the 12000 being more dis

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Brian Feeny
I have used the 7304 in the past and was happy with it. In fact I still have a 6-port DS3 module for a 7304 which I need to find a home for if anyone has the need. The 7304 originally had its own specific modules that went into it. But they also sell carrier card for it so you can use s

Re: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-15 Thread Michael Smiley
I am yet another that uses and loves Cyclades in my data center. The new ACS 6000 series is what I have now, which is quite nice due to the software pin switching they have on that unit, this means no more special cisco dongles. Also part of the reason for my use of the ACS is for the integration o

Weekly Routing Table Report

2009-05-15 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
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RE: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-15 Thread Dylan Ebner
We use Cyclades (avocent) devices in our data center. They have worked great for us. Very reliable. Modem dial-in gives us great remote capabilities if we have a major outage. We had troubles initially getting them to work because the cable adapters were never pinned correctly for Cisco. We ended u

Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-15 Thread Owen DeLong
On May 14, 2009, at 10:07 PM, Mans Nilsson wrote: Subject: Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden] Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 09:58:32AM +1000 Quoting Mark Andrews (mark_andr...@isc.org): And what's the next protocol that is going to be stomped on?

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread David Storandt
I would love to use the RSP720-3CXL, but cost and the PA OC3 are the difficulties. If the RSP720s will run in a 6500 chassis, great! We wouldn't have to purchase new chassis and the increased downtime for the swap-out. RSP720 don't support the older bus-only FlexWAN either with the OC3 PA we're u

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Alex H. Ryu
Cisco 7304 may not adequate for service provider. It's CPU/IO-controller is tied together, and doesn't provide much of benefit. Cisco 7200/7300 is enterprise solution pretty much, and doesn't support distributed CEF. If you are considering SUP720-3BXL, why not considering RSP720-3CXL ? Alex Aa

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Aaron Millisor
We ran into a similar quandary and have about the same amount of traffic as your network. When purchasing gear a year ago we decided against 7200's with an NPE-G2 as insufficient for the load. Have you looked at the 7304? The Cisco 7304 with an NSE-150 processing engine on it offloads a lot of

RE: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Leland E. Vandervort
We're running several six 65xx Sup720-3BXL with 3 full transit views and some 40-odd peers. We use two NPE-G1s for reflectors and some policy manipulation. Also running MPLS in the core to allow for traffic engineering and EoMPLS between certain services located in different locations. We're pu

RE: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Paul Stewart
We've never pushed a NPE-G2 to 800Mb/s before but I would think they would topple over... hopefully someone on here could confirm my statement? Moving the BGP to the 12008's would be my choice with PRP-2 processors if the budget fits we're faced with a similar upgrade next year possibly moving

Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Elmar K. Bins
dstora...@teljet.com (David Storandt) wrote: > Our engineering team has settled on three $20k/node options: > - Sup720-3BXLs with PS and fan upgrades Still quite slow CPU wise. RSP's are supposed to be a lot faster and actually usable. > - Sup2s as switches + ISIS + statics and no BGP, push BGP

NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread David Storandt
We're stuck in an engineering pickle, so some experience from this crew would be useful in tie-breaking... We operate a business-grade FTTx ISP with ~75 customers and 800Mbps of Internet traffic, currently using 6509/Sup2s for core routing and port aggregation. The MSFC2s are under stress from 3x

Re: Check out my photos on Facebook

2009-05-15 Thread Jared Mauch
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Check out my photos on Facebook

2009-05-15 Thread Martin Hepworth
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RE: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-15 Thread Clay Haynes
Have you heard of or tried Cyberswitching for remote power management? The DualCom series provide remote SNMP and a WebUI control of all the outlets and you can also query them for how many amps each outlet is pulling. Their DualCom series does support 120-240 VAC as well as supporting IEC C13

Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-15 Thread Mans Nilsson
Subject: Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden] Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:10:26AM +0100 Quoting John R. Levine (jo...@iecc.com): >>> And what's the next protocol that is going to be stomped on? >> >> Anything except http; at which point everything will mo

Re: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-15 Thread David Andersen
On May 15, 2009, at 4:45 AM, Elmar K. Bins wrote: I am concerned about remote power control, though. If you know your datacenter, you can get all kinds of remote-controlled power strips. With us, we don't always know beforehand what kind of power the DCs will have, and I'd like the exact same eq

Re: Google News Down?

2009-05-15 Thread Nitin Sharma
It is working fine now. Seems like a temporary failure from Google .. for 2 consecutive days? errmm! I can see many tweets to verify that it was indeed not working for many people too. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Joel Esler wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Nitin Sharma wrote: >

Re: Google News Down?

2009-05-15 Thread Joel Esler
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Nitin Sharma wrote: > I can reach Google News through icmp traceroutes, but the HTTP response > says > "Server Error".Anyone seeing this too? > All fine here. -- joel esler | Sourcefire | gtalk: jes...@sourcefire.com | 302-223-5974 | http://twitter.com/joeles

Google News Down?

2009-05-15 Thread Nitin Sharma
I can reach Google News through icmp traceroutes, but the HTTP response says "Server Error".Anyone seeing this too?

Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-15 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Skywing writes: > You are brave indeed to trust your packets over the air without a VPN or > tunnel of some sort. TSIG is like IPSEC's AH but for DNS. Being untrusting is how I managed to find out about these shenanigans in the first place. I don't care particularly about hiding the payload

The Cidr Report

2009-05-15 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri May 15 21:17:19 2009 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

BGP Update Report

2009-05-15 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 13-Apr-09 -to- 14-May-09 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS3130 136562 2.3% 529.3 -- RGNET-3130 RGnet/PSGnet 2 - AS845269624 1.2%

Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-15 Thread Martin Hannigan
Anything traversing the edge. They are all revenue targets. Best, Martin On 5/14/09, Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <20090514223605.88104.qm...@simone.iecc.com>, John Levine writes: >> >Dear Sprint EVDO people, >> > >> >Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS queries against >> >na

Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-15 Thread John R. Levine
And what's the next protocol that is going to be stomped on? Anything except http; at which point everything will move to http, and the firewalls are again useless. Um, if you think that http on consumer networks is transparent, I have some really bad news for you. Regards, John Lev

Re: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-15 Thread Elmar K. Bins
jvar...@crypticstudios.com (Jake Vargas) wrote: > > I stumbled across these, which look like decent alternatives to getting > > a 2511 from eBay: http://www.perle.com/products/Terminal-Server.shtml > > > > The 48-port 1U terminal server with redundant power looks particularily > > nice. > > > >

RE: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-15 Thread Jake Vargas
> I stumbled across these, which look like decent alternatives to getting > a 2511 from eBay: http://www.perle.com/products/Terminal-Server.shtml > > The 48-port 1U terminal server with redundant power looks particularily > nice. > > I've no experience with Perle, though. Anyone else? > I use

Re: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-15 Thread Bjørn Mork
Mehmet Akcin writes: > It's always cool to have console access to routers/switches and > nowadays they are going from RS-232 to RJ-45 as a standart. I have got > Avocent DSR 2035 which is a KVM+Serial console (all in one).. but > while I was able to have it work against servers via KVM or/and Ser