3fn shutdown

2009-06-04 Thread Charles Wyble
What do folks think? How were they shutdown? AS stopped from announcing? Physical power? http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html

Re: 3fn shutdown

2009-06-04 Thread Gerry Boudreaux
On Jun 4, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: What do folks think? How were they shutdown? AS stopped from announcing? Physical power? http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/04/1814201

Re: 3fn shutdown

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Holstein
How were they shutdown? AS stopped from announcing? Physical power? From TFA : 3FN's sites were disconnected after a Northern California district court judge approved an FTC request to have the company's upstream Internet providers stop routing Internet traffic for the provider. Cheers,

OT: ARIN contact

2009-06-04 Thread Erik Soosalu
I know this is off-topic, but I know some people from ARIN read this and would appreciate it if someone from ARIN would contact me off-list. Thanks, Erik

Re: OT: ARIN contact

2009-06-04 Thread Randy Bush
I know this is off-topic, but I know some people from ARIN read this and would appreciate it if someone from ARIN would contact me off-list. hostmas...@arin.net did not respond to email? this would be *extremely* unusual. randy

RE: OT: ARIN contact

2009-06-04 Thread Deepak Jain
I know this is off-topic, but I know some people from ARIN read this and would appreciate it if someone from ARIN would contact me off-list. hostmas...@arin.net did not respond to email? this would be *extremely* unusual. 2nd'ed. ARIN is very responsive by email and telephone now.

ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Randy Bush
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html while allegedly a black hat, this is the first case i know of in which the usg has shut down an isp. nose of camel? first they came for ... randy

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Andrew D Kirchtrel...@trelane.net wrote: Randy Bush wrote: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html while allegedly a black hat, this is the first case i know of in which the usg has shut down an isp.  nose of

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Randy Bush wrote: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html while allegedly a black hat, this is the first case i know of in which the usg has shut down an isp. nose of camel? first they came for ... randy Foonet.

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Painter
- Original Message - From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com To: North American Network Operators Group na...@merit.edu Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Deepak Jain
What does it say about these providers AUP that the FTC needed to go to court to turn them off? The AUP standard is usually written much, much lower. Deepak Deepak - Original Message - From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com To: North American Network Operators Group na...@merit.edu Sent:

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Deepak Jaindee...@ai.net wrote: What does it say about these providers AUP that the FTC needed to go to court to turn them off? I hate to re-start the atrivo/intercage/mccolo thread(s) but, often what happens is there just arent any real/usable complaints sent