Re: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-01 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Kevin Graham wrote: Indeed. Capacity upgrades are best gauged by drop rates; bit-rates without this context are largely useless. If you're dropping packets, you're already over the cliff. Our job as ISP is to forward the packets our customers send to us, how is that compat

Re: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-01 Thread Kevin Graham
> So, in summary: Your dropped packet counters are the ones to be looking at > as a measure of goodput, more than your utilization counters. Indeed. Capacity upgrades are best gauged by drop rates; bit-rates without this context are largely useless. When you're only aware of the RX side though,

RE: Ready to get your federal computer license?

2009-09-01 Thread Ed Schweitzer
Sean, We had a clipped conversation years ago. I'm no longer with the DIA or the NSA or the ASA (an old '70's agency) I've worked at Columbia University in the 80's, the NSA in the 70's, and a lot of other places in the 90's and beyond. Because of my past, I have to "lurk"... However, and you mus

Re: picking up server vendor in a global scope..

2009-09-01 Thread Jack Bates
Mehmet Akcin wrote: If you were to compare brands such as Dell, IBM, HP, Supermicro (or any other vendor?) which one you would recommend for this kind of approach? loadbalancer.org picked supermicro and dell. Their Dell option has better US support. They partnered with local companies in the U

picking up server vendor in a global scope..

2009-09-01 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Hey, Let's say you want to pick a server vendor and you don't necessarily want to buy from one country and ship it to 50 different locations but instead buy them locally in each country, and also have local parties provide support. If you were to compare brands such as Dell, IBM, HP, Supe

Re: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-01 Thread Jack Bates
Holmes,David A wrote: runs with good values on all 3 measures (low RTT, little or no packet loss, low jitter with small inter-packet arrival variation) can be deemed not a candidate for bandwidth upgrades. The key to active Sounds great, unless you don't own the router on the other side of the

FCC's Definition of Broadband

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Grundemann
All, I am forwarding this on for Susan Estrada with FirstMile.US, a fellow ISOC'er: FirstMile.US has formulated a survey for the tech community. The responses will be complied and sent to the FCC as a formal comment in the reply round to the FCC's "Comment Sought on Defining Broadband, NBP Public

RE: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-01 Thread Deepak Jain
> do any router vendors provide something akin to hardware latches to > keep > track of highest buffer fill levels? poll as frequently/infrequently > as > you like... Without getting into each permutation of a device's architecture, aren't buffer fills really just buffer drops? There are means t

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Sam Oduor
Back up .. Nairobi Kenya. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > On 2009-09-01, at 4:34 PM, James Downs wrote: > > >> On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Dominic J. Eidson wrote: >> >> It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail >>> (the MDA). >>> >>> Gmail/im

RE: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-01 Thread Holmes,David A
Another approach to collecting buffer utilization is to infer such utilization from other variables. Active measurement of round trip times (RTT), packet loss, and jitter on a link-by-link basis is a reliable way of inferring interface queuing which leads to packet loss. A link that runs with good

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On 2009-09-01, at 4:34 PM, James Downs wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Dominic J. Eidson wrote: It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail (the MDA). Gmail/imap appears to be working fine, at least from AUS. Same thing here in the US. Pop/Imap access remain

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Jon Kibler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 u...@3.am wrote: > > pop.gmail.com is answering on port 995 (pop3 ssl) as well, so I think > it's safe to assume this is probably a httpd-side problem. > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Jeff Kell wrote: > Google says they have issues with gmail: http://gm

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread AMuse
As a government-employed computer security guy who has never owned or worn a suit OR tie, I feel entitled to ask... WTF? Nick Hilliard wrote: On 01/09/2009 21:01, Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Down, definitely down. Call the White House! It should be clear t

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread up
pop.gmail.com is answering on port 995 (pop3 ssl) as well, so I think it's safe to assume this is probably a httpd-side problem. On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Jeff Kell wrote: m...@sabbota.com wrote: I think it just may be front end services that are impacted. I'm able to send/receive mail through

Re: Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread tome . nerd
access via igoogle via a web client works as well ... On Sep 1, 2009 4:25pm, Glenn Johnson wrote: FWIW: http://gmail.com doesn't work for me either right now, but I've read the whole "Issues with Gmail" thread and posted this email via GMail POP and GMail SMTP glenn.s.john...@g

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread James Downs
On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Dominic J. Eidson wrote: It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail (the MDA). Gmail/imap appears to be working fine, at least from AUS. Same thing here in the US. Pop/Imap access remains solid. I never use the web interface. -j

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread deleskie
Working on my BB here. Acct with rogers in canada but right now on ATT in Vegas --Original Message-- From: Jeff Kell To: m...@sabbota.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Issues with Gmail Sent: Sep 1, 2009 4:25 PM m...@sabbota.com wrote: > I think it just may be front end services that ar

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 01/09/2009 21:01, Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Down, definitely down. Call the White House! It should be clear that the root cause here is a lack of regulation, so could someone phone Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) _urgently_ and advise him that the only way to

Re: POP3 DoS attacks and mailanyone.net?

2009-09-01 Thread Andrew Fried
Hummm. Looking through some of my data I found that the domain NORTHROANOKE.COM resolves to 98.190.204.2 (the first attack vector). That box is running Microsoft Business Server 2003. NORTHROANOKE.COM appears to be some kind of assisted living facility in Roanoke, Virginia (based on whois). Doe

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Andrey Gordon
Seems to work with IMAP/SMTP, but no luck on the web UI in boston. On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:14 PM, m...@sabbota.com wrote: I think it just may be front end services that are impacted. I'm able to send/receive mail through my BB BIS gmail account. --Original Message-- From: Nathan And

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Ronald Cotoni
Dominic J. Eidson wrote: It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail (the MDA). Gmail/imap appears to be working fine, at least from AUS. - d. On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Kameron Gasso wrote: Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Yep, it's been th

RE: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Nathan Anderson
Kameron Gasso wrote: > Yep, it's been throwing 502 HTTP errors for about 25 minutes now. > We've been getting a handful of calls from frantic Gmail users > wondering why we broke their interwebs. ;) Somehow it's always our fault, isn't it? :P (Sorry about the earlier top-posting...have been for

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Glenn Johnson
FWIW: http://gmail.com doesn't work for me either right now, but I've read the whole "Issues with Gmail" thread and posted this email via GMail POP and GMail SMTP glenn.s.john...@gmail.com On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Scott Brown/Clack/ESD wrote: Gmail and Google Apps are down in our

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Jeff Kell
m...@sabbota.com wrote: > I think it just may be front end services that are impacted. I'm able to > send/receive mail through my BB BIS gmail account. IMAP seems to still be up. Jeff

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Marshall Eubanks
From Spint EVD0 I get Unable to reach Gmail. Please check your internet connection. Trying to reconnect now… Marshall On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? More specifically? -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Sys

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Kevin Stange
Jim Wininger wrote: > Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? http://mail.google.com/support/?hl=en -- Kevin Stange Chief Technology Officer Steadfast Networks http://steadfast.net Phone: 312-602-2689 ext. 203 | Fax: 312-602-2688 | Cell: 312-320-5867 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital s

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread manolo hernandez
Same here. Complete outage Nathan Anderson wrote: > The minute I saw your question, I tabbed over to an open session, and sure > enough... >

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread mike
I think it just may be front end services that are impacted. I'm able to send/receive mail through my BB BIS gmail account. --Original Message-- From: Nathan Anderson To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Issues with Gmail Sent: Sep 1, 2009 2:05 PM The minute I saw your question, I tabbed o

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread shasan
Yup, it's down. http://thenextweb.com/2009/09/01/google-experiencing-downtime-world/# http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en Been down for the past twenty minutes or so for me in Chapel Hill, NC. Other Google services seem to be working fine. Shaddi On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:01:46 -0400, Jim Wini

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Dominic J. Eidson
It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail (the MDA). Gmail/imap appears to be working fine, at least from AUS. - d. On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Kameron Gasso wrote: Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Yep, it's been throwing 502 HTTP errors for

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Scott Brown/Clack/ESD
Gmail and Google Apps are down in our neck of the woods. -- Scott From: Jim Wininger

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Alex Balashov
Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? More specifically? -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671

RE: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Nathan Anderson
The minute I saw your question, I tabbed over to an open session, and sure enough... -- Nathan Anderson First Step Internet, LLC nath...@fsr.com -Original Message- From: Jim Wininger [mailto:jwinin...@indianafiber.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:02 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subje

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Kameron Gasso
Jim Wininger wrote: > Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Yep, it's been throwing 502 HTTP errors for about 25 minutes now. We've been getting a handful of calls from frantic Gmail users wondering why we broke their interwebs. ;) -- Kameron Gasso | Senior Systems Administrator | visp.net Dire

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Raleigh Apple
Yes, I'm seeing errors like: Google Error Server Error The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request. Please try again in 30 seconds. r Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail?

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread chaim . rieger
Full gmail outage as per the status page EOM --Original Message-- From: Jim Wininger To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Issues with Gmail Sent: Sep 1, 2009 13:01 Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? -- Jim Wininger Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Jim Wininger
Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? -- Jim Wininger

RE: POP3 DoS attacks and mailanyone.net?

2009-09-01 Thread Winn Johnston
Issues with gmail.com here in DC Winn Johnston From: u...@3.am [...@3.am] Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 3:28 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: POP3 DoS attacks and mailanyone.net? For the first time since I can remember, my POP3 server was effectively

POP3 DoS attacks and mailanyone.net?

2009-09-01 Thread up
For the first time since I can remember, my POP3 server was effectively shut down by too many simultaneous connections today. The first fix I tried was to raise the number of connections from the default 40 to 100, but the problem soon returned. I finally ipfw'd off the offending IP (98.190

Re: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-01 Thread Aaron J. Grier
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:55:45AM +0100, Paul Jakma wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Nick Hilliard wrote: > >In order to get a really good idea of what's going on at a microburst > >level, you would need to poll as often as it takes to fill the buffer > >of the port in question. This is not feasible

QWEST in Washington DC Contact

2009-09-01 Thread Vincent J. Bono
If anyone from Qwest with site access to 1500 Eckington is around please reply to me privately. Have an urgent issue. -Vin

Re: Beware: a very bad precedent set

2009-09-01 Thread John Peach
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:12:33 +1000 Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <4a9c45d2.1000...@brightok.net>, Jack Bates writes: > > na...@wbsconnect.com wrote: > > > Any and all nefarious activity alleged in this lawsuit was > > > conducted by a c > > ustomer, of a customer, of a customer yet the host

Re: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-01 Thread Paul Jakma
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Nick Hilliard wrote: In order to get a really good idea of what's going on at a microburst level, you would need to poll as often as it takes to fill the buffer of the port in question. This is not feasible in the general case, which is why we resort to hacks like QoS to