Re: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-02 Thread Kevin Graham
So, in summary: Your dropped packet counters are the ones to be looking at as a measure of goodput, more than your utilization counters. Indeed. Capacity upgrades are best gauged by drop rates; bit-rates without this context are largely useless. When you're only aware of the RX side though,

Re: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-02 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Kevin Graham wrote: Indeed. Capacity upgrades are best gauged by drop rates; bit-rates without this context are largely useless. If you're dropping packets, you're already over the cliff. Our job as ISP is to forward the packets our customers send to us, how is that

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Randy Bush
bleep happens and services break. the internet is a wonderful demonstration of building a reliable network out of reliable components. but what we have with google mail (and apps) is two scary problems o way too many users relying on a single point of failure. so it makes the nyt when it

Re: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-02 Thread Jack Bates
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: If you're dropping packets, you're already over the cliff. Our job as ISP is to forward the packets our customers send to us, how is that compatible with upgrading links when they're so full that you're not only buffering but you're actually DROPPING packets? Many

Re: picking up server vendor in a global scope..

2009-09-02 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net wrote: Hey, Let's say you want to pick a server vendor and you don't necessarily want to buy from one country and ship it to 50 different locations but instead buy them locally in each country, and also have local parties provide

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: bleep happens and services break. the internet is a wonderful demonstration of building a reliable network out of reliable components. but what we have with google mail (and apps) is two scary problems o way too many users

draft-iana-ipv4-examples

2009-09-02 Thread Ron Bonica
Folks, Please take a look at draft-iana-ipv4-examples. This draft discusses the following subnet allocations: - 192.0.2.0/24 (TEST-NET-1) - 198.51.100.0/24 (TEST-NET-2) - 203.0.113.0/24 (TEST-NET-3) RFC 1166 allocates TEST-NET-1 for use in documentation. Because the other two have been used in

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Jay Farrell
There's a post-mortem on the gmail blog: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-on-todays-gmail-issue.html

UUnet issues

2009-09-02 Thread Andrew Matthews
Anyone seeing issues getting to level 3, att, or ntt? I seem to be seeing packet loss going to level 3 mostly in LA.

Re: UUnet issues

2009-09-02 Thread Andrew Matthews
I'm getting packet loss at xe-11-0-0.edge1.SanJose3.level3.net http://pastebin.com/m3b30e87e

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Mathews (OSIA)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: [] the internet is a wonderful demonstration of building a reliable network out of reliable components. but what we have with google mail (and apps) is two scary problems o way too many users relying on a single point of

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 09/02/2009 10:33 AM, Robert Mathews (OSIA) wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Randy Bushra...@psg.com wrote: [] the internet is a wonderful demonstration of building a reliable network out of reliable components. but what we have with google mail (and apps) is two scary problems

Cisco Virtual Port-Channel experience

2009-09-02 Thread keith tokash
If anyone has deployed VPC on the Cisco Nexus 5/7k platforms in a production environment I'd appreciate knowing how you feel about it (off-list please). This isn't a hunt for negative Cisco bashing, we're very interested in deploying this feature and would like to know what new problems we

Re: UUnet issues

2009-09-02 Thread Andrew Matthews
just spoke to level 3, they did have some latency issues in los angeles. Seems to be resolved now. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Tom Pipestom.pi...@t6mail.com wrote: The latency between Level 3 and NTT seems to have diminished according to the Internet Health Report. - Original

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Mathews (OSIA)
Michael Thomas wrote: I think that Randy might be conflating single point of failure with resilience. Google, distributed on every level as it is, is still just one operator and in this case the lemmings faithfully followed each other into the sea. We've been on an anti-resilience binge for

Network load test equipment

2009-09-02 Thread Greg Schwimer
I'm looking for equipment that can be used to load test network equipment such as switches, routers, firewall, and load balancers with pre-defined traffic patterns at differing rates. Ideally, this is only something I think I'll need 2-3x a year, so purchasing is not necessarily justifiable. I'd

RE: Network load test equipment

2009-09-02 Thread Luan Nguyen
You can't go wrong with IXIA. http://www.ixiacom.com/how_to_buy/ixrent/ Regards, -- Luan Nguyen Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC. http://www.netcraftsmen.net --- -Original Message- From: Greg Schwimer [mailto:gsch...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: Network load test equipment

2009-09-02 Thread Tom Ammon
We've used Spirent with a lot of success. They have a good lease program, too: www.spirent.com Tom Greg Schwimer wrote: I'm looking for equipment that can be used to load test network equipment such as switches, routers, firewall, and load balancers with pre-defined traffic patterns at

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 09/02/2009 11:20 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: Long before we has widespread commercial internet, we still had to have the backup plan for when the single highly fault tollerant entitity on which we were dependant on for a particular service went out. Sometimes, that plan is wait for

Re: Network load test equipment

2009-09-02 Thread Nick Buraglio
I've used Spirent, IXIA and Anritsu test gear and I prefer the Anritsu boxes, even if they are a tad more complicated to configure. There are places that you can rent stuff like that (I've rented OTDRs in the past) but the details escape me. nb --- Nick Buraglio Network Engineer, CITES,

Re: draft-iana-ipv4-examples

2009-09-02 Thread Geoff Huston
On 03/09/2009, at 1:33 AM, Ron Bonica wrote: Folks, Please take a look at draft-iana-ipv4-examples. This draft discusses the following subnet allocations: - 192.0.2.0/24 (TEST-NET-1) - 198.51.100.0/24 (TEST-NET-2) - 203.0.113.0/24 (TEST-NET-3) RFC 1166 allocates TEST-NET-1 for use in

Re: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-02 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 08:39:20AM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Kevin Graham wrote: Indeed. Capacity upgrades are best gauged by drop rates; bit-rates without this context are largely useless. If you're dropping packets, you're already over the cliff. Our job as

Google DNS admin

2009-09-02 Thread manolo hernandez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Could someone from google that can assist with a dns issue that originates from their servers please contact me offlist? I have tried normal channels listed on their Arin contact list to no avail. Manolo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

ATT - realpages.com Admin

2009-09-02 Thread lmarshall
Would an administrator from ATT (specifically realpages.com) contact me off-list. We have been attempting to resolve a client issue but normal channels have proved fruitless. L Marshall

Re: Google DNS admin

2009-09-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:53 PM, manolo hernandezmherna...@comcast.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Could someone from google that can assist with a dns issue that originates from their servers please contact me offlist?  I have tried normal channels listed on their

Re: Google DNS admin

2009-09-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Christopher Morrowmorrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:53 PM, manolo hernandezmherna...@comcast.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Could someone from google that can assist with a dns issue that originates from their

Telstra issues

2009-09-02 Thread Marcus H. Sachs
Anybody know what is going on with Telstra? We've got complaints coming in from Down Under that good chunks of the country are belly-up. More here: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1274075 Marc -- Marc Sachs m...@sans.org Director, SANS ISC

Re: Telstra issues

2009-09-02 Thread Andrew Parnell
I saw the wierest thing earlier this evening where one of our two /24 routes in sydney disappeared from the internet - from both our telstra and verizon connections. The only explanation i could come up with was that Australia had been somehow bizarrely severed from the internet. Anybody else

Re: Telstra issues

2009-09-02 Thread Mark Newton
On 03/09/2009, at 2:52 PM, Andrew Parnell wrote: I saw the wierest thing earlier this evening where one of our two / 24 routes in sydney disappeared from the internet - from both our telstra and verizon connections. The only explanation i could come up with was that Australia had been

RE: Link capacity upgrade threshold

2009-09-02 Thread Frank Bulk
What SNMP MIB records drops? I poked around for a short time, and I'm thinking that generically the drops fall into the errors counter. Hopefully that's not the case. Frank -Original Message- From: Kevin Graham [mailto:kgra...@industrial-marshmallow.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 02,