On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Justin Shore wrote:
> Frank Bulk wrote:
>
>> With scarcity of IPv4 addresses, organizations are more desperate than
>> ever
>> to receive an allocation. If anything, there's more of a disincentive
>> than
>> ever before for ARIN to spend time on netblock sanitizat
Hi,
There are multiple ways you can solve that problem. We do the following:
1. Each region has its own ibgp cluster with 2 route reflectors
(usually the P nodes, since they seem to have abundance of CPU power
and not much to do with it).
2. All route reflectors (across regions) are fully meshed.
Be careful about what you are asking for.
>> i am not saying all is well here. i am just trying to move slowly and
>> pretend to think while on my first cuppa.
I agree with Randy that this is a reasonable approach.
In the transition from the old IANA to FrICANNstein and the separation
of number
>> tough one. those 'bad' blocks will seem less and less bad over time.
> Sure things are less bad over time, once they are removed from 'bad
> actor control'
actually, i meant as ipv4 scarcity worsens
on the other side of the coin, olaf maennel and i did a bunch of work so
that rirs, specifical
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> 1) not allocating to known offendors (even those who've been through
>> the court system and had judgements against them, which would be
>> following your proposed path)
>
> [ i made no proposal. i was just a bit scared by the instant "we need
> 1) not allocating to known offendors (even those who've been through
> the court system and had judgements against them, which would be
> following your proposed path)
[ i made no proposal. i was just a bit scared by the instant "we need
to DO SOMETHING" reaction. ] but what you say seems some
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> I haven't followed this entire string. Are you saying ARIN is repeatedly
>> handing out address space to known abusers? If that's the case then yes,
>> some form of policy should be worked on.
>
> i might walk more slowly and with a bit les
> I haven't followed this entire string. Are you saying ARIN is repeatedly
> handing out address space to known abusers? If that's the case then yes,
> some form of policy should be worked on.
i might walk more slowly and with a bit less self-righteousness. this
is not a simple area. are we
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I'm having some trouble reaching a capable network engineer who runs
Verizon Wireless (AS22394). The contact on the ARIN address space I
have issues with does indeed pick up the phone but is not someone who is
aware of what BGP is.
Additionally, VZW is not listed on the NOC contacts page host
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Frank Bulk wrote:
With scarcity of IPv4 addresses, organizations are more desperate than ever
to receive an allocation. If anything, there's more of a disincentive than
ever before for ARIN to spend time on netblock sanitization.
I do think that ARIN should inform the new netblock owner if it w
Another one that could be discussed at the ARIN policy bof.
Also, Im forwarding this to the ARIN ppml for any further discussion.
Cheers
Marla
-Original Message-
From: David Conrad [mailto:d...@virtualized.org]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:44 AM
To: Douglas Otis
Cc: NANOG list
S
On Sep 14, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Douglas Otis wrote:
Perhaps ICANN could require registries establish a clearing-house,
where at no cost, those assigned a network would register their
intent to initiate bulk traffic, such as email, from specific
addresses.
ICANN can't require the RIRs do anyt
> -Original Message-
> From: Douglas Otis [mailto:do...@mail-abuse.org]
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:41 PM
> To: joel jaeggli
> Cc: NANOG list
> Subject: Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation, replaced by registered use
>
> On 9/13/09 12:49 PM, joel jaeggli wrote:
> > Frank B
> > If this is the case one could argue that ARIN should be reserving this
> > "worthless" address space to be used when they receive similar requests
> > in the future. There's no reason personX should get fresh, clean address
> > space when they make additional requests.
>
> That implies some pr
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Adrian Minta wrote:
Hijacking is not possible since most ISP's use filters based on RIPE
Database.
This is not true. Some filter, but most don't.
--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se
On 9/13/09 12:49 PM, joel jaeggli wrote:
Frank Bulk wrote:
[]
If anything, there's more of a disincentive than ever before for
ARIN to spend time on netblock sanitization.
This whole thread seems to be about shifting (I.E. by externalizing)
the costs of remediation. presumably the entities re
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Michael Ruiz wrote:
I am having difficulty maintaining my BGP session from my 6509 with
Sup-7203bxls to a 7206 VXR NPE-400. The session bounces every 3
minutes. I do have other IBGP sessions that are established with no
problems, however, this is the only IBGP peer that is
In Europe RIPE has a nice database. Hijacking is not possible since most
ISP's use filters based on RIPE Database.
Why ARIN don't use a similar tool ?
FYI-
I have forwarded this conversation to ARIN ppml as this is now a topic for that
mailing list more than NANOG.
Cheers
Marla Azinger
ARIN AC VC
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From: Azinger, Marla [mailto:marla.azin...@frontiercorp.com]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:29 AM
To: Christopher M
I may be in need of rack space in the Chicago area - the closer to downtown,
the
better.
I have need for about 24U of space and enough AC for 4 - 2U servers, 3 - 1U
servers, 2 hubs and a 3640 router.
Would need connectivity (100MB ethernet) and someone that can do a BGP session
with us for 3
I haven't followed this entire string. Are you saying ARIN is repeatedly
handing out address space to known abusers? If that's the case then yes, some
form of policy should be worked on. If on the administrative level ARIN is not
researching returned blocks for abuse complaints and working to
I am having difficulty maintaining my BGP session from my 6509 with
Sup-7203bxls to a 7206 VXR NPE-400. The session bounces every 3
minutes. I do have other IBGP sessions that are established with no
problems, however, this is the only IBGP peer that is bouncing
regularly.
cr1.AUSTTXEE#show
Christopher Morrow wrote:
> The end of the discussion was along the lines of: "Yes, we know this
> guy is bad news, but he always comes to us with the proper paperwork
> and numbers, there's nothing in the current policy set to deny him
> address resources. Happily though he never pays his bill aft
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Chris Marlatt wrote:
> Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> The end of the discussion was along the lines of: "Yes, we know this
>> guy is bad news, but he always comes to us with the proper paperwork
>> and numbers, there's nothing in the current policy set to deny him
>
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:43 AM, John Curran wrote:
> On Sep 11, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> >
> > I honestly don't think that it's up to them to create a set-aside
> > either,
> > hence my comment about behind the scenes activities. I appreciate you
> > detailing that, but I hones
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:05 AM, John Curran wrote:
> On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>> ...
>> For example: Ron Guilmette has recently pointed out that notorious
>> spammer
>> Scott Richter has apparently hijacked *another* /16 block --
>> 150.230.0.0/16.
oh lokoie, announced b
If a topic has anything to do with operating a voice network, VoiceOps
is a good place for it.
www.voiceops.org
VoiceOps covers voice over IP, TDM, TSOT, whatever...
David
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Richey wrote:
> I am looking for a CLEC related mailing list. I looked through the ar
On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> ...
> For example: Ron Guilmette has recently pointed out that notorious
> spammer
> Scott Richter has apparently hijacked *another* /16 block --
> 150.230.0.0/16.
> I've dropped that block into various local blacklists, and in some
> cases,
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:44:44AM -0700, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote:
> Best practices for the public or subscription RBLs should be to place
> a TTL on the entry of no more than, say, 90 days or thereabouts.
But there's no reason to do so, and a number of reasons not to, including
the very high pro
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:45:03PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
>
>
> > Note we all could start using IPv6 and avoid this problem altogether.
> > There is nothing stopping us using IPv6 especially for MTA's.
>
> that'd solve the spam
On 9 Sep 2009, at 06:04, Peter Beckman wrote:
How about a trial period from ARIN? You get your IP block, and you
get 30 days to determine if it is "clean" or not.
The reuse issue is possibly decades away in v6 land.
The reuse issue can't really be solved for v4 in a year or two.
Sounds li
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