Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Justin Shore
Hank Nussbacher wrote: http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/17-10/ts_burningquestion It's an interesting theory, that temperature affects overall throughput. Their assumptions on other conditions that affect bandwidth consumption are off IMHO. Our own data directly refutes

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility

2009-10-07 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Wednesday 07 October 2009 00:27:55 Joe Greco wrote: Assuming that the existence of an infected PC in the mix translates to some sort of inability to make a 911 call correctly is, however, simply irresponsible, and at some point, is probably asking for trouble. ... JG Also, someone

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Marco Hogewoning
On Oct 7, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/17-10/ts_burningquestion I'm not sure the effects are so big compared to the actual speed that they are noticable for the average user. We also don't have any proper data available but

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility

2009-10-07 Thread Dave Temkin
Alexander Harrowell wrote: On Wednesday 07 October 2009 00:27:55 Joe Greco wrote: Assuming that the existence of an infected PC in the mix translates to some sort of inability to make a 911 call correctly is, however, simply irresponsible, and at some point, is probably asking for trouble.

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
:- Hank == Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il writes: http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/17-10/ts_burningquestion -Hank There are TXCOs and OXCOs inside equipment for a reason. And rubidium lamps as well, sometimes. Seasonal variations in usage from the end

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: :- Hank == Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il writes: http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/17-10/ts_burningquestion -Hank There are TXCOs and OXCOs inside equipment for a reason. And rubidium lamps as well, sometimes.

Re: Up Next: Quarantine Phishing (Was: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients)

2009-10-07 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeroen Massar wrote: The problem with all of that boils down to what people have to believe... and how to properly inform them of that... How many people remember this oldie, but goodie? 3.3.2.1.1 Trusted Path The TCB shall support a trusted communication path

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Tim Franklin
I read the article and the follow up posts and I wonder if we are all using the same definition for speed here. The article seems to imply you don't get 6 Mbps on your DSL line in summer because the copper is hotter and it's harder to push electrons down the link. That is clearly BS,

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Joe Greco
http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/17-10/ts_burningquestion It used to be that we would notice this, except that it had everything to do with temperature *and* dampness. In the '90's, it was still quite common for a lot of older outside plant to be really only voice grade and

RE: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Jonathan Brashear
Trying to pinpoint the failure point on one of those circuits is a PITA as well. Getting a telco tech out to test on a circuit that only goes down when it rains is an exercise that Sisyphus would probably decline. Network Engineer, JNCIS-M 214-981-1954 (office) 214-642-4075 (cell)

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Scott Howard wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: I read the article and the follow up posts and I wonder if we are all using the same definition for speed here. The article seems to imply you don't get 6 Mbps on

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Bryan Campbell
No, I did not read the article . . . But, . . . Yes, DSL speed varies by season . . . or rather, temperature. But, this is really only the case for _aerial_copper_plant. Buried plant is nearly the same temperature year round. Copper pair resistance changes with temperature. And,

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility

2009-10-07 Thread Joe Greco
On Oct 6, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Joe Greco wrote: Someone else pointed out that if the system in question has been botted/owned/pwn3d/whatever you want to call it, then, you can't guarantee it would make the 911 call correctly anyway. I realize that many NANOG'ers don't actually use the

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread joel jaeggli
Scott Howard wrote: snip So you're saying that if I put in an 8Mbps ADSL1 connection, then I'm going to get a guaranteed 8Mbps point-to-point back to the exchange, regardless of the quality of my phone line, or the distance from the exchange? snip (I'm not saying that the article is

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Joe Greco
No, I did not read the article . . . But, . . . Yes, DSL speed varies by season . . . or rather, temperature. But, this is really only the case for _aerial_copper_plant. Buried plant is nearly the same temperature year round. Yes, but it is more susceptible to long-term water

Re: Practical numbers for IPv6 allocations

2009-10-07 Thread Kevin Loch
David Conrad wrote: On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Nathan Ward wrote: My understanding is that the RIRs are doing sparse allocation, as opposed to reserving a few bits. I could be wrong. Last I heard, with the exception of APNIC and contrary to what they indicated they'd do prior to IANA

Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA 5520

2009-10-07 Thread Michael Ruiz
Group, I am stuck like chuck. We are unable to activate a VPN in one of the virtual firewall context. Under the crypto commands, none of the IP-sec are available. Any help on this would be appreciated. Version we running is 8.0(4) Michael Ruiz

Re: Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA 5520

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Lyon
Call 1-800-553-2447, they should be able to help. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Michael Ruiz mr...@telwestservices.comwrote: Group, I am stuck like chuck. We are unable to activate a VPN in one of the virtual firewall context. Under the crypto commands, none of the

RE: Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA 5520

2009-10-07 Thread Tillinger, Steve
IPsec isn't available when in multiple context mode. -Original Message- From: Michael Ruiz [mailto:mr...@telwestservices.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:56 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA 5520 Group, I

Re: Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA 5520

2009-10-07 Thread Jason Bertoch
Michael Ruiz wrote: Group, I am stuck like chuck. We are unable to activate a VPN in one of the virtual firewall context. Under the crypto commands, none of the IP-sec are available. Any help on this would be appreciated. Version we running is 8.0(4) Isn't VPN only

RE: Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA 5520

2009-10-07 Thread John Hodges
I was in ASA class just last week and asked about this exact issue. I was told that at this time you cannot do the IPSec VPN in Multiple context mode (due to the ASA not being able to keep track of the SA). This is a software issue that Cisco is working on and has in test at this time. No

Re: Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA 5520

2009-10-07 Thread Dane Newman
yup you lose alot in mutli context mode such as vpn, and routing protocols. It basically just becomes a true stateful firewall. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:26 PM, John Hodges jhod...@simplexity.com wrote: I was in ASA class just last week and asked about this exact issue. I was told that at this

Re: Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA 5520

2009-10-07 Thread Devangnp
Does Juniper firewall has same issue? Devang Patel On Oct 7, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Dane Newman dane.new...@gmail.com wrote: yup you lose alot in mutli context mode such as vpn, and routing protocols. It basically just becomes a true stateful firewall. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:26 PM, John

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Steve Meuse
joel jaeggli expunged (joe...@bogus.com): ADSL systems will retrain to a lower rate as line conditions (SNR) change for the worse. The attentuation characteristics of a given pair will change of time due to a number of factor, including but not certainly limited to physical wear, moisture

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility

2009-10-07 Thread Robert Bonomi
From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Wed Oct 7 06:18:24 2009 Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:17:57 +0700 From: Dave Temkin dav...@gmail.com To: Alexander Harrowell a.harrow...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility Cc: nanog@nanog.org

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Scott Morris
I may be having my wires a little crossed (I'm not an electrical engineer) but I was always under the impression that manipulation of the physical characteristics like that from heat/dampness didn't reduce the speed but the quality (like line noise/errors/etc) of the line. Whether old telco lines

RE: Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA 5520

2009-10-07 Thread Michael Ruiz
Thank you for your help for this question. Have a good day. -Original Message- From: Tillinger, Steve [mailto:steve.tillin...@sourcemedia.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: Michael Ruiz; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Help - Unable to builld a IP-SEC VPN on a Cisco ASA

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Matthew Black
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:12:44 +0800 Adrian Chadd adr...@creative.net.au wrote: Please don't forget moisture content. DSL speeds may drop during wet winters because cable pits fill with water. :) Those with real statistics, please stand up. I know ISPs who run large DSL infrastructures have these

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Joe Greco (jgr...@ns.sol.net): http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/17-10/ts_burningquestion If I recall correctly, the worst was usually a long, hard cold rain (hey we're in Wisconsin) after which people who had been getting solidly high speed modem connects would see

Telus BGP/ACL contact

2009-10-07 Thread Jason Lixfeld
I'm looking for a Telus individual who might be able to adjust a prefix list for me. Our sales rep no longer works for Telus and it's after 5pm here, so no account managers are available to help me expedite this request. The NOC insists that there's nothing they can do unless I have

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Jerry Pasker
Ignoring the little distractions, and taking a 30,000 ft view on this topic, my thoughts were always that backbone capacity gets behind, and backbone takes time to provision. Then it catches up, or leap frogs demand just in time for a wane in traffic. Try as we may, you can only predict

Data Centers in England

2009-10-07 Thread Philip Lavine
Anyone know a good DC on England that caters to financial industry clients?

RE: Data Centers in England

2009-10-07 Thread Scott Spencer
http://www.datacentermap.com/united-kingdom/london/ As a good resource as well - Best regards, Scott Spencer Data Center Asset Recovery/Remarketing Manager Duane Whitlow Co. Inc. Nationwide Toll Free: 800.977.7473. Direct: 972.865.1395 Fax: 972.931.3340 sc...@dwc-computer.com

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-07 Thread Joe Greco
I may be having my wires a little crossed (I'm not an electrical engineer) but I was always under the impression that manipulation of the physical characteristics like that from heat/dampness didn't reduce the speed but the quality (like line noise/errors/etc) of the line. Whether old telco

Re: Data Centers in England

2009-10-07 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:33:33PM -0700, Philip Lavine wrote: Anyone know a good DC on England that caters to financial industry clients? Telehouse London started as a Banking DR centre, so would probably meet your needs. Otherwise, there's Interxion, which claims to have all sorts of security

Re: Data Centers in England

2009-10-07 Thread Shane Ronan
As the CTO of a financial company with multiple data centers in London, I would recommend Equinix Slough (or London 4) site. They have a website setup just for Financial firms. http://financial.equinix.com/ I've got space in both Telehouse and Equinix and would recommend Equinix for

Turkish Networks related questions..

2009-10-07 Thread Mehmet Akcin
I have got few questions regarding Turkish ISPs, networks, could someone from Turkey possibly contact me offlist please? thank you. -- Mehmet Akcin Blog: http://www.mehmetakcin.com E-mail: meh...@akcin.net