On 26/02/2010 22:59, Bill Stewart wrote to nanog:
> Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see the problem.
The ITU is magic. I am no expert, but I am aware that sometimes the ITU
decision making processes leads to member states having to adopt those
decisions as telecoms law.
I would not want to replace
On 01/03/2010 14:04, Arjan van der Oest wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>>> Competition is not a bad thing.
>> Competition would be if I could approach the NCC or Pepsi Cola for my
>> integers for use on the internet. It is not competition if the
>> government makes me ask them for some integers.
> Assuming
On 1 Mar 2010, at 14:04, Arjan van der Oest wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>
>>> Competition is not a bad thing.
>
>> Competition would be if I could approach the NCC or Pepsi Cola for my
>> integers for use on the internet. It is not competition if the
>> government makes me ask them for some integers.
Can anyone recommend a decent book on IPV6? Most of what I find on the
net don't explain things very well.
thanks,
Curtis
On 2/28/2010 2:08 PM, John Jason Brzozowski wrote:
Mike,
Are you looking for something specific on www.comcast6.net? We will likely
be making some content updates in t
Andy scribbled:
Competition is not a bad thing.
>>> Competition would be if I could approach the NCC or Pepsi Cola for
my
>>> integers for use on the internet. It is not competition if the
>>> government makes me ask them for some integers.
>> Assuming that ITU would become a nationwide alte
I found "Migrating to IPv6: A practical guide to implementing IPv6 in
mobile and fixed networks" by Marc Blanchet very well written and
"worth the price of admission".
ISBN: 978-0471-49892-6
--
Brad Fleming
On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote:
Can anyone recommend a decent bo
Did you check out IPv6 Essentials, 2nd edition by Siliva Hagen?
John
609-377-6594
- Original Message -
From: Brad Fleming
To: Curtis Maurand
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Mon Mar 01 09:27:48 2010
Subject: Re: Comcast IPv6 Trials Update
I found "Migrating
CB3ROB scribbled:
> let the riots commence 2.0
Oh dear oh dear...
>keep in mind, most telcos and ISPs (the founders and members of the
>current IANA -> RIRS -> LIRs model resulting in a global internet which
is
>hard to censor) do not agree on this ITU proposal...
I wonder who those ITU m
Hm, I was under the impression that ARPANET was a government run
network...
Not since 1992..what you're looking for these days is NIPRnet and
SIPRnet, and ESnet, etc, etc, etc.
ARPANET only lives on in reverse dns.
> But anyhow, don't get me wrong. I agree with all that has been said on
> why and how ITU is trying to get a grip on packet switched communication
> networks. My only point it that it might not be a bad idea to ponder on
> the subject of allowing competition between RIR's in the same
> geographica
Folks,
After a great meeting in Austin, we're gearing up for
NANOG 49. The NANOG 49 CFP is now available on
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/callforpresent.php
Important dates include:
Presentation Abstracts and Draft Slides Due: 09-Apr-
Skeeve wrote:
> Are you really serious about that? The issues seem to me much bigger than
> competition though.
Yes sir, in theory/conceptually.
> The ITU - being an RIR wouldn't satisfy what it seems to setting out trying to
> do. Making them an RIR under the current system seems pointless as
On Mar 1, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Arjan van der Oest wrote:
>> keep in mind, most telcos and ISPs (the founders and members of the
>> current IANA -> RIRS -> LIRs model resulting in a global internet which is
>> hard to censor) do not agree on this ITU proposal...
>
> I wonder who those ITU members ar
On 3/1/2010 9:55 AM, Adam Waite wrote:
>
>> Hm, I was under the impression that ARPANET was a government run
>> network...
>>
>>
> Not since 1992..what you're looking for these days is NIPRnet and
> SIPRnet, and ESnet, etc, etc, etc.
>
> ARPANET only lives on in reverse dns.
And that
On 2010-02-27, at 10:13, Izaac wrote:
> A few months ago, is appears that Sprint started dropping 6to4
> encapsulated packets. Egress is fine. Ingress silently drops. Anyone
> see anything similar? Or am I the only guy crazy enough to be doing
> this sort of thing in the first place?
6to4 is
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:42:15 +0100, Arjan van der Oest said:
> > (considering the fact that governments themselves are not capable of
> >running anything but a gray-cheese-with-a-dial telephone network
>
> Hm, I was under the impression that ARPANET was a government run
> network...
I would not b
On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:25 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:42:15 +0100, Arjan van der Oest said:
>
>>> (considering the fact that governments themselves are not capable of
>>> running anything but a gray-cheese-with-a-dial telephone network
>>
>> Hm, I was under the imp
I've just bought "IPv6 Essentials", however it turned out to be the 1st
edition, hopefully there won't be too many differences.
I'm also going to go through this PDF on the Cisco website that should
put a practical face on the book, which seems very theoretical on a
quick flick through ...
http:/
On Mar 1, 2010, at 11:42 PM, Arjan van der Oest wrote:
> CB3ROB scribbled:
>
>> let the riots commence 2.0
>
> Oh dear oh dear...
>
>> keep in mind, most telcos and ISPs (the founders and members of the
>> current IANA -> RIRS -> LIRs model resulting in a global internet which
> is
>> ha
- Original Message -
From: "Curtis Maurand"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Comcast IPv6 Trials Update
Can anyone recommend a decent book on IPV6? Most of what I find on the
net don't explain things very well.
thanks,
Curtis
Deploying IPv6 Networks is pr
On Mar 1, 2010, at 11:55 PM, Adam Waite wrote:
>
>> Hm, I was under the impression that ARPANET was a government run
>> network...
>>
>>
> Not since 1992..what you're looking for these days is NIPRnet and
> SIPRnet, and ESnet, etc, etc, etc.
>
> ARPANET only lives on in reverse dns.
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:04:19 -0600
Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 3/1/2010 9:55 AM, Adam Waite wrote:
> >
> >> Hm, I was under the impression that ARPANET was a government run
> >> network...
> >>
> >>
> > Not since 1992..what you're looking for these days is NIPRnet
> > and SIPRnet, and ESnet
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Mar 1, 2010, at 11:55 PM, Adam Waite wrote:
Not since 1992..what you're looking for these days is NIPRnet and SIPRnet,
and ESnet, etc, etc, etc.
Um, actually, I would say that in all of those cases, including ARPANET when it
existed, you are
On 3/1/2010 12:53 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:04:19 -0600
> Larry Sheldon wrote:
>
>> On 3/1/2010 9:55 AM, Adam Waite wrote:
>>>
Hm, I was under the impression that ARPANET was a government run
network...
>>> Not since 1992..what you're lookin
> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:55:43 +0100
> From: Adam Waite
>
>
> > Hm, I was under the impression that ARPANET was a government run
> > network...
> >
> >
> Not since 1992..what you're looking for these days is NIPRnet and
> SIPRnet, and ESnet, etc, etc, etc.
While ESnet is funded by th
How do you think we feel in Alaska. Until mid last year, most cellular
BTS were backhauled via DS1. Only Within the last 12 months have we
(insert obligatory "I work for a GSM and CDMA cellular provider serving
most of Alaska") even migrated from Local copper to fiber or air
interfaces (ds1/ds3 mic
On 03/01/2010 09:04 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 3/1/2010 9:55 AM, Adam Waite wrote:
>>
>>> Hm, I was under the impression that ARPANET was a government run
>>> network...
>>>
>>>
>> Not since 1992..what you're looking for these days is NIPRnet and
>> SIPRnet, and ESnet, etc, etc, etc.
>
Michael
I think for the people in the situation you are describing, the best bet would
be
one of the wireless technologies. Someone on the thread mentioned LTE (which
should
be coming out in a couple years time), and to that we can add WiMAX and
even the 3G/3.5G HSPDA type wireless. The prices
Anyone from hotmail on the list that can contact me please? We're
having a widespread issue.
Thanks.
--
Matt
On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Akyol, Bora A wrote:
> Michael
>
> I think for the people in the situation you are describing, the best bet
> would be
> one of the wireless technologies. Someone on the thread mentioned LTE (which
> should
> be coming out in a couple years time), and to that we can
Hmm... unless I'm completely off, 1,080. About enough for a DS3. Maybe half of a
DS3.. as long as it overreaches their T1 or HDSL capacity. It seems that while
DS3 is a copper product, it's typically delivered to the site broken off of a
fiber node. Wouldn't want to see the installation bill of tha
On 03/01/2010 05:34 PM, Akyol, Bora A wrote:
> Michael
>
> I think for the people in the situation you are describing, the best bet
> would be
> one of the wireless technologies. Someone on the thread mentioned LTE (which
> should
> be coming out in a couple years time), and to that we can add W
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